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Old 02-17-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Why does he get to use the 'hopped up on drugs' excuse but the woman isn't?
agree that if the guy was on drugs at the time, then he should be charged as well

but unless the two were together for the rest of the 9 months, how did he have anything to do with what the woman did after conception?

at most, he would be an absent father, no different than all the other dead beat dads around
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:14 PM
 
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Oh boy, wait until the opi babies come of age and continue the cycle
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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Why would they be charged? The guy being hopped up on drugs is not relevant to the pregnancy.
Agree, also how can you charge anyone when the fetus is considered not a person for the purposes of abortion?
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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agree that if the guy was on drugs at the time, then he should be charged as well

but unless the two were together for the rest of the 9 months, how did he have anything to do with what the woman did after conception?

at most, he would be an absent father, no different than all the other dead beat dads around
Why would the man be charged? How is he impacting anyone other than himself? The entire concept of murder, assault, etc, is that it impacts another person, that is why you are not charged with assault for hitting yourself.

If he, however, is a participating party on ensuring the pregnant woman gets access to and uses drugs, I do see he should be charged.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:18 PM
 
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One in seven baby umbilical cords tested positive for opiates in Indiana, study finds | Health | newsandtribune.com

West Virginia gets Medicaid OK to treat babies in drug rehab - New Jersey Herald -

Seems like parts of the nation are a complete culture and moral collapse. Many women are obviously going from heroin sugar daddy to heroin daddy.

Seems like birth rates are surging though in areas not because of solid two-parent married financially secure couples but women getting into relationships where lots and lots become pregnant just for the heroin.

When 1/7th of baby umbilical cords are testing positive for opiods in Indiana and they have rehab centers for heroin addicted newborns in West Virginia there is a huge moral crisis in America.

Women who get pregnant while on opiods or anything medication destructive to the fetus should be charged with attempted murder in my opinion.
Where in your linked articles does it say anything about women getting pregnant for heroin?

Is this simply your 'theory'? Because that changes your headline if it is about addicts having kids. That has been happening for a number of years.

From your sources, it appears that the moral crisis is that nobody is attempting to help or educate the addicts regarding getting pregnant while addicted, and I assume cuts to health insurance and medicaid don't help.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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remember the so called 'crack babies' epidemic in the 80s and 90s? the experts said at the time these babies would be brain damaged for the rest of their lives. I've recently read these babies have mostly grown up to be successful adults with minimal if any side affects from being born with a crack addiction. perhaps all is not dire for these opioid babies. humans are amazingly resilient creatures.

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Old 02-17-2018, 01:58 PM
 
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This doesn't have anything to with the opioid crisis.
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:58 PM
 
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It's not really their fault our animal psychology drives us to have addictive personalities not to mention women being attracted to "danger" and going after those type of men. Until we have genetic engineering you'll never cure the problem of young people wanting excitement. I know it's a cop out to just blame DNA or whatever for your problems in life and yes it would be if they were doing it to defend their own actions, but I'm doing it to somewhat defend their actions....

All American men should get red pilled though.. I'm not saying you have to do and practice everything there but knowledge is power and you'll save yourself lots of heartbreak and misery if you learn how women are biologically generally speaking wired to respond to stimuli... for the first time in life I can say I 'understand' women in general and now it's so obvious when I see a "beta" together with a woman that doesn't really love and respect him, and you can tell by her facial expression alone what she really wants... the "heroin sugar daddy" to do things to her I'll leave to your imagination.
I don't know how heroin is "exciting". Nodding off - wow the thrill. I'm not sure these women are the ones most guys would want anyway. Not good examples.

I had a couple of friends who went for bad boy types, they didn't use their good sense at all and there was always drama. But that is just a couple of women friends, the rest of us found decent men to build lives with. There are certainly crazy women and those who use poor judgement but it isn't natural, it is a dysfunction. It is behavior that is not favorable for their long term benefit or that of any children that may result from it. They are responsible for their choices, and a woman with any brains doesn't go for losers. Just as a decent man should not get involved with an addict or crazy woman.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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It's not really their fault our animal psychology drives us to have addictive personalities not to mention women being attracted to "danger" and going after those type of men. Until we have genetic engineering you'll never cure the problem of young people wanting excitement. I know it's a cop out to just blame DNA or whatever for your problems in life and yes it would be if they were doing it to defend their own actions, but I'm doing it to somewhat defend their actions....

All American men should get red pilled though.. I'm not saying you have to do and practice everything there but knowledge is power and you'll save yourself lots of heartbreak and misery if you learn how women are biologically generally speaking wired to respond to stimuli... for the first time in life I can say I 'understand' women in general and now it's so obvious when I see a "beta" together with a woman that doesn't really love and respect him, and you can tell by her facial expression alone what she really wants... the "heroin sugar daddy" to do things to her I'll leave to your imagination.
LMAO...that’s pretty damn magnanimous. Wow.

“It’s not really their fault,” huh? Amazing.

I could say much more, but I’m just gonna leave it right there.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:58 PM
 
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It's not really their fault our animal psychology drives us to have addictive personalities not to mention women being attracted to "danger" and going after those type of men. Until we have genetic engineering you'll never cure the problem of young people wanting excitement. I know it's a cop out to just blame DNA or whatever for your problems in life and yes it would be if they were doing it to defend their own actions, but I'm doing it to somewhat defend their actions....

All American men should get red pilled though.. I'm not saying you have to do and practice everything there but knowledge is power and you'll save yourself lots of heartbreak and misery if you learn how women are biologically generally speaking wired to respond to stimuli... for the first time in life I can say I 'understand' women in general and now it's so obvious when I see a "beta" together with a woman that doesn't really love and respect him, and you can tell by her facial expression alone what she really wants... the "heroin sugar daddy" to do things to her I'll leave to your imagination.
LOL. No, you really don't. But thanks for the laugh.
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