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Old 03-10-2018, 04:03 AM
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from hunters-knives.co.uk Legal Information for Knife and Sword Ownership in the UK

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The CJA 1988 mainly relates to carrying knives in public places, Section 139 being the most important.
"It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him (or her) in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches." [CJA 1988 section 139(1)]
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British law also covers age restriction on the sale of knives in the Criminal Justice Act 1998:
"It is an offence for any person to sell to a person under the age of 18 any knife, knife blade, razor blade, axe or any other article which has a blade or is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for causing injury to the person." [CJA 1988 section 141A]
Obviously this would cover machetes as well. Even chefs don't use knives outside their kitchens. Nor would hobby archers have any use for bows and arrows outside the grounds of their archery club.
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Old 03-10-2018, 04:13 AM
 
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Will forks be next?
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:23 AM
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You can carry a knife if you have a good reason such as part of your employment and knives such as small Swiss Army knives and utility knives with blades of less than 3 inches are also excluded.

The legislation only applies to public areas and is mainly used to stop young people in gangs in inner city areas, indeed you don't see the police stopping and searching farmers, gamekeepers or the like.

The legislation is fine, and along with legislation relation to carrying Offensive Weapons in public gives the police some extra powers in order to stop violent crime.
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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As Monty Python would say, "They are stark raving MAD!"
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:39 AM
 
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You can carry a knife if you have a good reason such as part of your employment and knives such as small Swiss Army knives and utility knives with blades of less than 3 inches are also excluded.

The legislation only applies to public areas and is mainly used to stop young people in gangs in inner city areas, indeed you don't see the police stopping and searching farmers, gamekeepers or the like.

The legislation is fine, and along with legislation relation to carrying Offensive Weapons in public gives the police some extra powers in order to stop violent crime.
How do individuals defend themselves against violent crime when it is directed towards them?

Baah baah bleet the british subjects
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:55 AM
 
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You can carry a knife if you have a good reason such as part of your employment and knives such as small Swiss Army knives and utility knives with blades of less than 3 inches are also excluded.

The legislation only applies to public areas and is mainly used to stop young people in gangs in inner city areas, indeed you don't see the police stopping and searching farmers, gamekeepers or the like.

The legislation is fine, and along with legislation relation to carrying Offensive Weapons in public gives the police some extra powers in order to stop violent crime.
The police in the UK also do not carry firearms, kicking the argument about only the police having guns to the curb.
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Old 03-10-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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The police in the UK also do not carry firearms, kicking the argument about only the police having guns to the curb.
Not true. Their SWAT, and other units are armed to the teeth. Ever been there, and go through the airports? The police carry HK MP-5 submachine guns, and other full auto weapons.
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Old 03-10-2018, 06:04 AM
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How do individuals defend themselves against violent crime when it is directed towards them?

Baah baah bleet the british subjects
There is no legal definition of reasonable force but you can generally use whatever force is neccessary to fight someone off or defend your property.

Legal cases are rare and geneally involve cases where a person is tied up or restrained and no longer poses a threat, and you keep beating them, torture them or set them alight ( a real case).

The Police and CPS are usually very sympathetic in such corcumstances and only cases which are grossly over the top generally end up in Court, and this usually only ammounts to a couple of cases per decade, which demonstatres how rare such cases are.

All cases that end up in Court have to be presided over by a Jury of your peers who will estabish guilt or innocents on the b asis of what the average reasonable person would do in such circumstances.

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Originally Posted by UK Gov

You can use reasonable force to protect yourself or others if a crime is taking place inside your home.

This means you can:
  • protect yourself ‘in the heat of the moment’ - this includes using an object as a weapon
  • stop an intruder running off - eg tackle them to the ground
There’s no specific definition of ‘reasonable force’ - it depends on the circumstances. If you only did what you honestly thought was necessary at the time, this would provide strong evidence that you acted within the law.

You don’t have to wait to be attacked before defending yourself in your home.

However, you could be prosecuted if, for example, you:
  • carry on attacking the intruder even if you’re no longer in danger
  • pre-plan a trap for someone - rather than involve the police
Using reasonable force against intruders - GOV.UK

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

Their ruling confirmed that the current domestic law was valid. The Crown Prosecution Service’s guidance says that “anyone can use reasonable force to protect themselves or others, or to carry out an arrest or to prevent crime”.

It adds: “You are not expected to make fine judgments over the level of force you use in the heat of the moment.

So long as you only do what you honestly and instinctively believe is necessary in the heat of the moment, that would be the strongest evidence of you acting lawfully and in self-defence. This is still the case if you use something to hand as a weapon.”

Grossly disproportionate force, such as a “calculated action of revenge” would not be covered, it says.

Householders can use 'disproportionate' level of force against - The Guardian


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Old 03-10-2018, 06:07 AM
 
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Americans have been "cut down" too.
Prohibitions on carrying swords, switch blades, etc, are all part of Big Brother's glorious socialist paradise.
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Old 03-10-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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Americans have been "cut down" too.
Prohibitions on carrying swords, switch blades, etc, are all part of Big Brother's glorious socialist paradise.
Also, like with gun laws, you can become a criminal going state to state, or city to city because every state and every city has different knife laws. Many states, and cities have blade length restrictions. Some cities ban knives all together unless it is required for your work. Madness!
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