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Old 02-26-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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VITAL TO DISARM
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You can never have an efficient totalitarian police state, when it has to be “benevolent” and fearful of millions of armed citizens. And you can’t disarm millions of armed citizens when they won’t tell you where the arms are. And you can’t arrest them until you criminalize their disobedience to “reasonable” gun restrictions and “common sense” registration. And you can’t tolerate their belief that they have an “endowed right” to self defense against tyranny, that supersedes your political power of the bigger gun.
• An Armed Populace Fears No Government.
• A Disarmed Populace Fears All Government.

It amazes me that intelligent people believe that disarming themselves will stop predators from preying on them. Guns aren't the problem. Predators are.


- - - MAO was right - - -
Every Communist must grasp the truth, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. We shall create a democratic republic. Experience in the class struggle in the era of imperialism teaches us that it is only by the power of the gun that the working class and the laboring masses can defeat the armed bourgeoisie and landlords; in this sense we may say that only with guns can the whole world be transformed. We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun.
- - - Mao Zedong (Mao Tse-tung) Mao's concluding speech at the Sixth Plenary Session of the Sixth Central Committee of the Party.
“We are advocates of the abolition of war.”
For once all guns are ours to command, no one dare oppose “us.”
Shut up, Sit down, pay and obey, SLAVE.
We are the government - you ain't.
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Welcome to the PDSRA!
People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America, slowly transforming America into a glorious socialist paradise since 1933.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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Now, we have the mass media promulgating the "wisdom" of children who are demanding that "scary guns" and perhaps all guns be restricted.

Predators are cheering, en masse, as the sheeple make themselves more helpless.

I think any people who have a right to life and to defend that life, should have any weapon they deem necessary. And no government instituted to secure those rights should intrude upon that choice.

Who is the master and who is the servant?

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Old 02-28-2018, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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• An Armed Populace Fears No Government.
• A Disarmed Populace Fears All Government...
How true is this? The presentation is dramatic, it grabs you in the nether-regions, but in my experience, it isn't factual.

I live, happily, unarmed.

Yet, I write to my Legislators and Congressmen. I vote every election. I complain to everyone I know about government. I do not fear government.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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How true is this? The presentation is dramatic, it grabs you in the nether-regions, but in my experience, it isn't factual.

I live, happily, unarmed.

Yet, I write to my Legislators and Congressmen. I vote every election. I complain to everyone I know about government. I do not fear government.
Some of us do. It cost me a LOT of money to hire an Attorney to fight my local govt for doing nothing wrong but being accused of it. I won, did I get my money back? Hell no.

I can't believe they were allowed to arrest me for such a thing. I do not trust my Govt.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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Some of us do. It cost me a LOT of money to hire an Attorney to fight my local govt for doing nothing wrong but being accused of it. I won, did I get my money back? Hell no.

I can't believe they were allowed to arrest me for such a thing. I do not trust my Govt.
In all fairness, if there were financial consequences for every time our government was wrong, our national debt would be 2-3x what it is now.
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Some of us do. It cost me a LOT of money to hire an Attorney to fight my local govt for doing nothing wrong but being accused of it. I won, did I get my money back? Hell no.

I can't believe they were allowed to arrest me for such a thing. I do not trust my Govt.
Lol….
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Old 02-28-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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How true is this? The presentation is dramatic, it grabs you in the nether-regions, but in my experience, it isn't factual.

I live, happily, unarmed.

Yet, I write to my Legislators and Congressmen. I vote every election. I complain to everyone I know about government. I do not fear government.
I believe that might be the point. You live, happily, unarmed. I believe the OP is trying to tell you that the reason you get to live like that is because millions of Americans live happily and are armed. The OP is saying if we were all disarmed there would be nothing to stand in the way of a tyrannical government. The fact that the populace is armed helps to keep the government in check. Without those arms, there would be absolutely nothing for the government to worry about. I think this quote pretty well sums up what the OP is warning you about with his post.


"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Sir John Dalberg-Acton


If we submit to disarming the entire populace, we hand absolute power to the government. At that point, we are basically powerless and hanging all our hopes on the government continuing to honor our Constitution. The OP is suggesting, correctly I might add, that an armed populace acts as a deterrent
to those who might seek to take the power from the people. However, an unarmed populace could easily be made to submit.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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I believe that might be the point. You live, happily, unarmed. I believe the OP is trying to tell you that the reason you get to live like that is because millions of Americans live happily and are armed. The OP is saying if we were all disarmed there would be nothing to stand in the way of a tyrannical government. The fact that the populace is armed helps to keep the government in check. Without those arms, there would be absolutely nothing for the government to worry about. I think this quote pretty well sums up what the OP is warning you about with his post.


"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Sir John Dalberg-Acton


If we submit to disarming the entire populace, we hand absolute power to the government. At that point, we are basically powerless and hanging all our hopes on the government continuing to honor our Constitution. The OP is suggesting, correctly I might add, that an armed populace acts as a deterrent
to those who might seek to take the power from the people. However, an unarmed populace could easily be made to submit.
Well said.
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The OP is saying if we were all disarmed there would be nothing to stand in the way of a tyrannical government.
If we submit to disarming the entire populace, we hand absolute power to the government. At that point, we are basically powerless and hanging all our hopes on the government continuing to honor our Constitution. The OP is suggesting, correctly I might add, that an armed populace acts as a deterrent
Can't rely on the constitution....
. . . .
Senate Report 93-549
https://archive.org/stream/senate-re...3-549_djvu.txt
War and Emergency Powers Acts
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (as of the report 1933-1973), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."
FREEDOMS ... GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION ... HAVE BEEN ABRIDGED BY LAWS ... UNDER EMERGENCY RULE ...

Constitutional U.S.A. (1789 - 1933) R.I.P.

And for two trivia points, can you name the CAUSE of the STATE OF EMERGENCY?
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Old 02-28-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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“Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army,... and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; ... the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger.
Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation,... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms...”
- - - James Madison, Federalist Paper #46.

The Avalon Project : Federalist No 46


In Federalist Paper #46, 1788, James Madison argued that Americans should not fear the “federal” government to be established under the new compact constitution. He argued that since the American people are armed, unlike other nations whose governments fear an armed populace, no federal army led by an ambitious leader could defeat the States and their stalwart militiamen, who would outnumber and outgun any standing army.

OOOPS.
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