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Old 03-02-2018, 09:13 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Redd Jedd View Post
Pretty much like saying Bush holding a pile in his hands and saying, "Look what you just stepped in!"
GW Bush was an idiot president. I didn't vote for him either time. Just another bought & paid for politician like Obama. Bush at least didn't pretend to be something else like Obama.

And that takes us back to the point of the Topic.

Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do and raise these kinds of tariffs against countries where he though trade wasn't fair.

That is WHY he defeated every bought and paid for politician who came up against him from both parties.

 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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You speak of opinion, not fact.
So then you tell us why Hillary lost the industrial mid-west. That is an absolute fact.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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GW Bush was an idiot president. I didn't vote for him either time. Just another bought & paid for politician like Obama. Bush at least didn't pretend to be something else like Obama.

And that takes us back to the point of the Topic.

Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do and raise these kinds of tariffs against countries where he though trade wasn't fair.

That is WHY he defeated every bought and paid for politician who came up against him from both parties.
Seems like most of Trump's own Cabinet who know about trade and tariffs are against his moves as well as far back as last summer.

"One official estimated the sentiment in the room as 22 against and 3 in favor — but since one of the three is named Donald Trump, it was case closed."

https://www.axios.com/trump-overrule...a3a8058c0.html
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:19 AM
 
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The mind of a Trump cultist at work.
Considering where it comes from, I'll wear that, like I did the Deplorable badge of honor that Hillary gave me.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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Seems like most of Trump's own Cabinet who know about trade and tariffs are against his moves as well as far back as last summer.

"One official estimated the sentiment in the room as 22 against and 3 in favor — but since one of the three is named Donald Trump, it was case closed."
That is an article from Susan Walsh who writes an anti-Trump piece, based on anonymous sources, for the AP on almost daily basis. If you wish to believe it that's your business.

Trump IS doing exactly what he said he would do.

He's absolutely keeping a campaign promise that he kept to 10s of millions of voters.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Retaliation by other countries doesn’t always take the form of countervailing tariffs. Countries can just stop buying from the U.S. For example:

Sorghum takes hit as China retaliates for tariffs on solar panels | Kansas Farmer

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Ahead of the announcement of the tariff, the sorghum market, thanks to steady buying from China, was on a roll. Prices had been going up and up — in fact sailing past corn, which as a general rule sells at a premium to sorghum.

The hit to sorghum is especially costly, because about 63% of the sorghum grown in the U.S. is exported. China has been buying 80-90% of all the sorghum exported.
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Meanwhile, soybean producers and their commodity groups are bracing, as they are likely to be the next commodity to be hit.
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Beef exports are also vulnerable to being hit by a trade war.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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What did Canada do to us? Seems this is going to hurt them more than any other country.
While this steel tariff will effect Canada in a big way retaliation will take the form of Canada avoiding trade with the USA and focusing on doing busness elswhere, higher prices for Canadian lumber water and hydro also higher prices for American cars made in Canada.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/disad...tas-20726.html

As an example = https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-in-snub-to-us
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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So say they go through with this, AND Trump stays in office till 2024, in the mean time a re-emergence of american steel and aluminum occurs.

Next administration changes the tariffs back.

Guess what happens to those industries, and all the capital they sank into their re-emergence? If they can't compete on a global scale without the government that is a good indication that they should not be doing it.
Exactly, that's why we have trade in the first place.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:30 AM
 
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Hope those tax cuts will pay for the COL increase that will be directly attributed to Donald J. Trump and Donald J. Trump alone.

Nobody else was on board with this.
Remember that Trump is a massive debtor. High inflation is very good for him.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 09:31 AM
 
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Protecting inefficient industries is a recipe for disaster. But that's Donnie for you.
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