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Old 03-13-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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Opinion piece from the Observer that goes back to Trump comments made in 1999 about N Korea...

Trump has been consistent on this for almost 20 years. We will see how N Korea responds, but for Trump - the plan is moving forward.

How Trump’s ‘Maximum Pressure’ Strategy Got North Korea to the Table

From Meet the Press, October 24, 1999...

In the interview, Russert says Trump once indicated if he were president he would attack North Korea preemptively in order to end its nuclear threat.

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Trump says, “First I’d negotiate and be sure I could get the best deal possible… These people in three or four years are going to have nuclear weapons… The biggest problem this world has is nuclear proliferation. And we have a country out there in North Korea which is sort of whacko, which is not a bunch of dummies and they are developing nuclear weapons… If that negotiation doesn’t work then better solve the problem now than solve it later.”

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This is the gist of Trump versus North Korea, 2018 edition: The U.S. and its democratic allies, South Korea and Japan, are not demanding regime change. North Korea’s vicious regime can continue to run a Stalinist gulag and starve its wretched citizens. This is a concession to China. If the North Korean gulag remains, Communist China will retain an authoritarian and semi-dependent buffer prison state between its border and South Korea.

In exchange for regime existence (Kim dynasty pay off) and the buffer gulag (China pay off), the Kim regime must get rid of its nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons manufacturing capabilities.

The pay off to South Korea, Japan and the U.S. is that North Korea can no longer threaten Seoul, Tokyo, Honolulu and San Francisco with nuclear immolation.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQUaQo2j42Y
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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Opinion piece from the Observer that goes back to Trump comments made in 1999 about N Korea...

Trump has been consistent on this for almost 20 years. We will see how N Korea responds, but for Trump - the plan is moving forward.

How Trump’s ‘Maximum Pressure’ Strategy Got North Korea to the Table

From Meet the Press, October 24, 1999...

In the interview, Russert says Trump once indicated if he were president he would attack North Korea preemptively in order to end its nuclear threat.

...
Trump says, “First I’d negotiate and be sure I could get the best deal possible… These people in three or four years are going to have nuclear weapons… The biggest problem this world has is nuclear proliferation. And we have a country out there in North Korea which is sort of whacko, which is not a bunch of dummies and they are developing nuclear weapons… If that negotiation doesn’t work then better solve the problem now than solve it later.”

...
This is the gist of Trump versus North Korea, 2018 edition: The U.S. and its democratic allies, South Korea and Japan, are not demanding regime change. North Korea’s vicious regime can continue to run a Stalinist gulag and starve its wretched citizens. This is a concession to China. If the North Korean gulag remains, Communist China will retain an authoritarian and semi-dependent buffer prison state between its border and South Korea.

In exchange for regime existence (Kim dynasty pay off) and the buffer gulag (China pay off), the Kim regime must get rid of its nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons manufacturing capabilities.

The pay off to South Korea, Japan and the U.S. is that North Korea can no longer threaten Seoul, Tokyo, Honolulu and San Francisco with nuclear immolation.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQUaQo2j42Y
The plan to attack North Korea?

And China would back this move or let it happen why?
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Historically speaking, its the US who should NOT have nukes. So far its only us that have been wacko enough to use them in war.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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The plan to attack North Korea?

And China would back this move or let it happen why?
Step 1 of the plan is to negotiate "like crazy." That's where we are now.

We will see about step 2 if it gets there. But for now, things are going as planned.
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Old 03-13-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Step 1 of the plan is to negotiate "like crazy." That's where we are now.

We will see about step 2 if it gets there. But for now, things are going as planned.
There is nothing planned with this President. He does everything from the gut which is why he failed at business, even with the help of his dad and others. They called him the King of Debt, he owed so much money. In the end, all that saved him was his celebrity name.

You guys can keep hoping he’s a strategic thinker who plans everything but his history says otherwise. Eventually you will figure this out.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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Regarding step 2, there is this...

Air Weapons: More MOP For Mister Kim

In early 2018 the U.S. Air Force ordered another $21 million worth of their 14 ton deep penetrator bomb (the MOP or Massive Ordnance Penetrator, officially the GBU-57).

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It is known that GBU-57 underwent modifications in 2013 and 2017 that required one of more of them to be used to ensure the mods had the desired effect. While the 2013 mods were apparently to increase penetration and effectiveness against Iranian underground facilities the 2017 mods apparently took the characteristics of North Korean (or even Chinese) underground facilities into account.



...and this...

Approximately 200 Airmen and three B-2 Spirits from Whiteman Air Force Base (AFB), Missouri, deployed to Andersen AFB in support of U.S. Pacific Command’s (PACOM) Bomber Assurance and Deterrence mission.



In case you are not aware, the B-2 planes are able to carry out the MOP missions.

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