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Old 03-21-2018, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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Hopefully they leave Hickok45 alone.
Betcha he's gone in a week, if that. Can't have him showing anyone the Jerry Miculek revolver. Oh, the horror!! And demo-ing the Kel-tec Sub 2000 - that right there is pure evil. /sarc
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Private company...their right to do so. If they wanted to ban all black or all white content providers I'd support their right to do that to.

No problems here.
Yep. Of course the #MAGA snowflakes will cry "1st Amendment!" without doing any sort of research.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Typical from the ignorant left. Can't show any responsible, safe, legal use of firearms, that doesn't fit their political agenda.

I'm sure they won't pull Hollywood trailers of movies glorifying violence.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Typical from the ignorant left. Can't show any responsible, safe, legal use of firearms, that doesn't fit their political agenda.

I'm sure they won't pull Hollywood trailers of movies glorifying violence.
Why anyone would get firearm training from YouTube, instead of instructors, is beyond me.

As they own their service, they are welcome to moderate and regulate content as they see fit.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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We can and should begin to pass legislation for those large social media providers who have practically a monopoly in certain sectors. It's maybe not a 1st amendment issue now, but we can easily make it to be.

Just like Google cannot say "we will only hire white people because we're a private company." Companies that serve the public have a certain public responsibility and have to conform to public regulations. And a public regulation can be not to censor individual speech provided X and Y conditions are met.
-YouTube is not a monopoly. There are many other video content hosts. If the market decides they no longer want to use YouTube, they will speak with their clicks.

-Any company should be able to discriminate against, hire, and provide service to whomever they want. It's their inherent property right and right of freedom of association.

-There is no "public responsibility" and there should be no public regulations, period.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:35 PM
 
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Why anyone would get firearm training from YouTube, instead of instructors, is beyond me.

As they own their service, they are welcome to moderate and regulate content as they see fit.
Well instructors make DVDs and videos to sell so why not?
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Lol. Banning videos will not stop videos from coming out.
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Old 03-21-2018, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Over Yonder
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Why anyone would get firearm training from YouTube, instead of instructors, is beyond me.

As they own their service, they are welcome to moderate and regulate content as they see fit.
You are absolutely correct. It is totally within this company's discretion what content they will allow to be viewed on their website. I have no problem with this whatsoever because in the end, there will be a correction and some other company will fill this particular need if there is a market for it. The only thing that will change will be the provider.

Of course, this will also mean YouTube will lose some their ad revenue. Because the way YouTube makes money are those annoying ads you are forced to watch at least a portion of before viewing a video. They only make money if people are either clicking the ads or watching at least 30 seconds of them. So the monetary loss would basically depend on how many people actually use the site for their instructional firearms videos. But either way, less clicks or ad watchers equals less money. I would imagine the effect will be nominal, but it will still show up on their bottom line at the end of the year. Also, there could be some less understanding individuals out there who decide to no longer use YouTube at all out of anger over this move. So the monetary cost may be a bit more than I imagined.

PS. I'm sure I will continue to use YouTube I have never searched for anything to do with guns on the site in the first place. I prefer books for information when I'm trying to learn something serious. And yes, they do still exist people. You can still find books on pretty much any and every subject you can think of. I know, it's hard to believe, but the printed word does still exist.....for now.
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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We can and should begin to pass legislation for those large social media providers who have practically a monopoly in certain sectors. It's maybe not a 1st amendment issue now, but we can easily make it to be.

Just like Google cannot say "we will only hire white people because we're a private company." Companies that serve the public have a certain public responsibility and have to conform to public regulations. And a public regulation can be not to censor individual speech provided X and Y conditions are met.
Only the government can viollate the First Amendment. Individuals and businesses cannot. This is not a 1A issue. Unless you can make the case that the banned videos represent federally protected classes, you don't have a case, and even then it might be sketchy trying to make that argument. They have the right to allow the content they want on their website. They have already cut out a lot of the porn that was creeping in. Gun videos are an equivalent to that.
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Well instructors make DVDs and videos to sell so why not?
Let the market determine who fails and who succeeds.
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