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Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
Just another "wave" of crooks and liars. Nothing to be all that proud of to be sure... Hashbrown BigBlueWave
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start.
Assault rifles are manufactured for the military, are you against that? Normal citizens do not have the ability to acquire the type weapons you are referring to.
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
Maybe you should start in the inner cities ? You know, where shootings are a daily occurrence ? As far as "assault type weapons" , not a single one has been used in a mass shooting. Maybe in the shoot out in California back in 1997 , but I believe those were illegally modified.
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
"Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons"? You see, this is where I start to have a problem with the anti-gun argument. There is no definition of "assault type weapons," because there can't be. Who defines what one is? What are the criteria?
As for stopping the said manufacture, how will that keep guns out of the hands of teenage kids? Are there no other firearms available?
If you were truly worried about safety, the AR15 would be the last thing on your list to ban. Rifles, in general, account for less than 1% of firearms used in the commission of a crime. Are you seriously going to argue that removing a subset of a category of firearm that is used in less than 1% of crimes involving firearms is going to somehow make the world safer? Please come back to reality. If you were arguing for the banning of handguns, which are used in the vast majority of firearms crime, we would still disagree - but at least you would appear somewhat logical.
While you personally may not be interested in confiscation, it is apparent that the larger group of anti-gunners actually is pursuing such a goal.
I could address the constitutionality of registration or the fact that not one study shows registration has any meaningful effect on firearms crime, but you probably already know about these two issues. If you do and are still in favor of registration, you aren't using logic. If you don't, then you haven't studied the topic enough to have a valid opinion.
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Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
You know more about him than I do. I wouldn't be able to pick him out of a lineup.
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As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
The big blue wave doesn't matter in the slightest to me. I haven't voted Democrat or Republican in quite a few years, and quite frankly those of you that do vote for either of the two major parties kind of **** me off. Neither party is looking out for the best interests of Americans, and yet y'all keep on picking between the two of them because "voting third party is a wasted vote". If enough people voted for someone other than the two major parties on a regular basis, we wouldn't have ended up with a choice between the Wicked Witch of Washington and the Narcissistic Cheeto that we had in the last election. So please, continue to lecture me about how great it is that Wisconsin - a state which hasn't been truly red since the 1980s - is "turning blue" like it matters.
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
Registered? Like happened in Cuba, right before Castro started going door to door, based on those registrations, confiscating guns?
Guess most of us non-gun-nut people are concerned with staying alive by getting guns out of the hands of teen-age kids. Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons seems like a very good start. I NEVER said the guns you own should be confiscated, just registered, like you have to register your car. Scared of that, aren’t you?
Glad you don’t admire Wayne LaPierre. He seems like a real weird dude. Wish he’d get a decent haircut before his next TV appearance.
As for Dems winning the 2018 mid-terms, did you see the Dem who won the 10-Year Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin yesterday? Wow, Wisconsin is going left. Gotta love it. Even Paul Ryan is afraid of the #BigBlueWave...
Post after post calling for gun regulation, to keep guns out of the hands of kids. But not one mention of the abject failure by the very government you want to regulate those guns, to keep guns out of the school shooter's hands. So many missed opportunities, yet you've never commented on it. You just call people names, and "nuts" and expect that they'll just sign up to register their guns.
"Stopping manufacture of assault type weapons"? You see, this is where I start to have a problem with the anti-gun argument. There is no definition of "assault type weapons," because there can't be. Who defines what one is? What are the criteria?
As for stopping the said manufacture, how will that keep guns out of the hands of teenage kids? Are there no other firearms available?
If you were truly worried about safety, the AR15 would be the last thing on your list to ban. Rifles, in general, account for less than 1% of firearms used in the commission of a crime. Are you seriously going to argue that removing a subset of a category of firearm that is used in less than 1% of crimes involving firearms is going to somehow make the world safer? Please come back to reality. If you were arguing for the banning of handguns, which are used in the vast majority of firearms crime, we would still disagree - but at least you would appear somewhat logical.
While you personally may not be interested in confiscation, it is apparent that the larger group of anti-gunners actually is pursuing such a goal.
I could address the constitutionality of registration or the fact that not one study shows registration has any meaningful effect on firearms crime, but you probably already know about these two issues. If you do and are still in favor of registration, you aren't using logic. If you don't, then you haven't studied the topic enough to have a valid opinion.
You know more about him than I do. I wouldn't be able to pick him out of a lineup.
The big blue wave doesn't matter in the slightest to me. I haven't voted Democrat or Republican in quite a few years, and quite frankly those of you that do vote for either of the two major parties kind of **** me off. Neither party is looking out for the best interests of Americans, and yet y'all keep on picking between the two of them because "voting third party is a wasted vote". If enough people voted for someone other than the two major parties on a regular basis, we wouldn't have ended up with a choice between the Wicked Witch of Washington and the Narcissistic Cheeto that we had in the last election. So please, continue to lecture me about how great it is that Wisconsin - a state which hasn't been truly red since the 1980s - is "turning blue" like it matters.
The biggest issue with 3 or more parties is that you could have 34% of the people voting for someone that 66% would oppose if the 66% were split evenly. Or if there were 10 parties 11% would be in control if the other 90% were split evenly.
As bad as the two parties may be we gotta' pick one or the other. Me? I could never vote for a Democrat no matter who they nominate for any public office. I'm against damn near everything that party stands for. From illegal immigration to the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional law.
Democrats are all for a socialist aristocracy of which they will have absolute power and control over the masses. The only thing that stands in their way is the Constitution and Bill of Rights. To them the Constitution is a living breathing document that can be legislated out of existence or from the bench. This country was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Democrats believe it's a Democracy or mob rule. But their not smart enough to realize that as the political pendulum swings both ways that they too may be on the receiving end of an angry mob. Just as those of us who legally own guns are today. Does any of this sound familiar? It's pretty much the Democrat Party's platform.
1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control – Remove the people’s ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, and income)
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
The biggest issue with 3 or more parties is that you could have 34% of the people voting for someone that 66% would oppose if the 66% were split evenly. Or if there were 10 parties 11% would be in control if the other 90% were split evenly.
As bad as the two parties may be we gotta' pick one or the other. Me? I could never vote for a Democrat no matter who they nominate for any public office. I'm against damn near everything that party stands for. From illegal immigration to the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional law.
Democrats are all for a socialist aristocracy of which they will have absolute power and control over the masses. The only thing that stands in their way is the Constitution and Bill of Rights. To them the Constitution is a living breathing document that can be legislated out of existence or from the bench. This country was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Democrats believe it's a Democracy or mob rule. But their not smart enough to realize that as the political pendulum swings both ways that they too may be on the receiving end of an angry mob. Just as those of us who legally own guns are today. Does any of this sound familiar? It's pretty much the Democrat Party's platform.
1) Healthcare – Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty – Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt – Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control – Remove the people’s ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare – Take control of every aspect of their lives (food, housing, and income)
6) Education – Take control of what people read and listen to – take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion – Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools
8) Class Warfare – Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
This is all Right Wing nutty interpretation. Wrong in every bullet point. The hate you Right Wingers feel is palpable. It’s because you are scared. Scared because you are going to lose the House, and possibly the Senate, in 2018. See you then...
This is all Right Wing nutty interpretation. Wrong in every bullet point. The hate you Right Wingers feel is palpable. It’s because you are scared. Scared because you are going to lose the House, and possibly the Senate, in 2018. See you then...
No it isn't. If it's wrong then why can't you dispute it point by point? All you can come back with is that it's "Right Wing nutty interpretation." Every one of those 8 points are the God damn truth and you know it! Each point is exactly what the Democrats are in favor of. Why do Democrats have to lie about their agenda? Is it because they could never win on it?
Talk about hate? I guess you've never heard any of the hatred and contempt coming from your side? Calling people "Deplorables", "Gun Nuts", "Bitter Clingers", "Right Wing Wacko's", "Right Wing Nutty" and worse are certainly not examples of tolerance and civility you so demand of others. If name calling doesn't express hatred then I don't know what does?
Scared? Not really, we've lost the house before and may lose it again. Big deal. Just as Democrats will lose it again as well, IF and that's a big IF they take the house in November. The Senate is highly unlikely, that's where judicial appointments are made.
But I guess we'll just have to see in November. Keep running on repealing the 2nd Amendment and putting the interests of illegal invaders ahead of American citizens and we'll see how far that gets you. But of course you'll have to lie about that too in order to win. With their condescending attitude Democrats believe that people are just too stupid to be able to figure out what they are all about?
But you're not fooling anyone except for those that are condemned to a life of poverty and despair. Which is just where you want to keep them in order to maintain your power structure. Little do they realize that they're nothing more than modern day slaves to the Democrat Party. That's what socialism is all about as outlined in those 8 bullet points. That's exactly what the Democrats want for the United States.
Things will only get worse when Democrats have no fear of armed resistance. The only purpose of these laws that are directed against honest citizens are for political retribution and to have total control over peoples lives. Our government, in particular the Democrat Party does indeed fear the people bearing arms, because they know damn well that once their policies are in effect the overwhelming majority will be so miserable and the standard of living so low that armed resistance will become inevitable. Unfortunately they have enough "useful idiots" who support them. These fools will also suffer the consequences. They're just too stupid to realize it, as they have no knowledge of history and are too damn lazy to study it. Class warfare is the seed of socialism. Socialism will be the end of freedom and of life as we know it in the United States. The only ones who benefit in a Socialist society are the aristocrats that rule over us. This is the goal of the Democrat Party. The only thing standing in their way is Constitutional law and the Bill of Rights.
The Bill of Rights which includes the 2nd Amendment is there to protect the citizenry from a tyrannical government. These are the laws that all government officials must follow as they are sworn to uphold them. The Bill of Rights can not be changed quite so easily to reflect the will of the majority at any given time or for any given reason. They require a very difficult amendment process that the founders of this nation have provided for. We are not a Democracy. This nation was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The reason for that is so that the majority party who is in power at any given time can not violate the Constitutional rights of the minority party who is not in power at that time. The Bill of Rights purpose is to protect the rights of all citizens regardless of which party is in power. We are only a Democracy in a sense that the majority elects our representatives. There is a big difference between laws passed at the legislative level and a Constitutional Convention that would be required in order to alter or as some would like to abolish the Bill of Rights. I doubt that too many people would be in favor of that once they learn what was at stake or to turn that much power over to a corrupt government which doesn't abide by any laws, answers to no one and wishes to control every aspect of your life.
I've argued this point many times to those who think that the military and police would slaughter their own family, friends and neighbors. Destroying their homes and neighborhoods in the process. There would be absolutely nothing for them to come home to. It is more than likely that they would turn against the government that ordered them to do so. A lot of gun owning Americans are both active duty and retired law enforcement and military personnel who firmly believe in the 2nd Amendment and "Constitutional Law". Add to that the millions of us who know how to use firearms. Not to mention the quantity of guns and ammunition that are currently in private hands. We would indeed be a force to be reckoned with.
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