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Aside from the birth certificate, which is deemed to be a fraud, there's no evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. Zero. These are the facts.
You're wrong.
I don't know how you can ignore repeated public statements by the STATE of HAWAII that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. That's not just evidence. That's the ONLY authority stating the facts.
Aside from the birth certificate, which is deemed to be a fraud,
Once again, provide your sources for this supposed fraud. You keep saying it, but when asked to produce evidence you ignore it. And we know why that is. Because you have no evidence outside of your own racism.
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Originally Posted by scgraham
there's no evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. Zero. These are the facts.
Aside from your birth certificate, you also have zero evidence that you were born where you claim to be born. That's kind of the point of a birth certificate.
Aside from the birth certificate, which is deemed to be a fraud, ...
no it wasn't. that's the fantasy ramblings of joe arpaio and his comically incompetent "cold case posse" ( aka mike zullo )
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there's no evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. Zero.
* 1961 HI birth index ( available to the public )
* mention by the state department in lolo soetoro's visa extension application
* two contemporaneous newspaper announcements available on microfilm in multiple laibraries across the US including the library of congress.
* 2007 issued certificate of live birth ( COLB )
* 2008 confirmation from HI department of health. ( and multiple times after )
* 2011 issued "long-form" birth certificate ( LFBC )
Barack Obama was a poser. He has no valid birth certificate to prove he was born in the USA.
wrong. thae facts of obama's birth were confirmed by the HI department of health in october 2008.
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My understanding of the Founders definition of "natural born" means someone who is the child of two citizen parents.
nice opinion, unfortunately it isn't shared by the vast majority of scholars and the legal community.
ironically, trump had standing to challenge ted cruz's eligibility during the primaries. this would have forced the SCOTUS to rule on a clearer definition of the phrase "natural born citizen". trump failed the birthers.
Obama was not born in Kenya. And for sale of argument, even if he was, his mother was still an American citizen, which makes the point moot; otherwise, Ted Cruz wouldn't have been eligible to be president.....
At the time of his birth, it would have been impossible for his mother to have been present in the US for at least five years after attaining the age of 14. He would NOT be a natural born citizen if he was, in fact, born outside the US. If his mother had fulfilled this criterion (which is no longer in effect), then he would be one, regardless of where he was born.
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