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Old 03-29-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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The Paris Climate Accords Are Looking More and More Like Fantasy

Remember Paris? It was not even two years ago that the celebrated climate accords were signed — defining two degrees of global warming as a must-meet target and rallying all the world’s nations to meet it — and the returns are already dispiritingly grim.

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This week, the International Energy Agency announced that carbon emissions grew 1.7 percent in 2017, after an ambiguous couple of years optimists hoped represented a leveling off, or peak; instead, we’re climbing again. Even before the new spike, not a single major industrial nation was on track to fulfill the commitments it made in the Paris treaty.

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This puts Donald Trump’s commitment to withdraw from the treaty in a useful perspective; in fact, his spite may ultimately prove perversely productive, since the evacuation of American leadership on climate seems to have mobilized China, eager to claim the mantle and far more consequential to the future of the planet because of its size and relative poverty, to adopt a much more aggressive posture toward climate. Of course those renewed Chinese commitments are, at this point, just rhetorical, too.


After going a couple of possible solutions to what is needed for compliance at this point...

According to these recent papers, both are something close to fantasy: at best, uneconomical and entirely untested at scale, and, at worst, wholly inadequate to the job being asked of them.


Thank goodness we got out of that.

Add one to Trump's side...
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Old 03-29-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Lefties never really mention what we are supposed to do about it.... I know I've brought this up in the past but a lot of lefties love to travel the world to see other cultures... well guess what those jets put out carbon emissions. Assuming the plane is full you actually get a pretty good seat MPG from one of these flights, but keep in mind flying puts on a lot more miles much faster than driving.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/s...ir-travel.html

https://www.dcstatesman.com/al-gore-...ivate-jet-use/

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/20...e-environment/

Until people like Al Gore stop using private jets to get around, they have no business preaching about the environment.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:13 AM
 
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AGW is real, but getting humans to stop burning fossil fuels is like getting humans to stop having sex. It isn’t going to happen without a major technological miracle.
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Old 04-02-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Until people like Al Gore stop using private jets to get around, they have no business preaching about the environment.
Exactly.

When they start following their own mandates, then I will consider taking their claims seriously.


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AGW is real, but getting humans to stop burning fossil fuels is like getting humans to stop having sex. It isn’t going to happen without a major technological miracle.
Which is why the treaty is nonsense. It was simply a fleecing operation.
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Nobody can stop volcanoes from releasing carbon. Maybe tax the countries that have them?
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