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Old 04-11-2018, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Facebook ceased being a "private company" the day it went public on the stock market. It should be treated as any business that serves the public and subject to the laws against discrimination or violations of constitutional rights.
But I thought you righties were in favor of businesses having the option of discriminating against whoever they choose (see the afore mentioned wedding cake fiasco). Now you're against it? You guys really need to make up your minds. You're confusing the s*** out of everyone else in the country about what exactly it is you stand for.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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But I thought you righties were in favor of businesses having the option of discriminating against whoever they choose (see the afore mentioned wedding cake fiasco). Now you're against it? You guys really need to make up your minds. You're confusing the s*** out of everyone else in the country about what exactly it is you stand for.
So the wedding cake was made by a publicly held company? Who knew?
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:00 PM
 
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Facebook ceased being a "private company" the day it went public on the stock market. It should be treated as any business that serves the public and subject to the laws against discrimination or violations of constitutional rights.
Bwahahaha! Suddenly, the self-declared conservatives find a liking for strict regulatory oversight.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Bwahahaha! Suddenly, the self-declared conservatives find a liking for strict regulatory oversight.
Its crazy its almost like big business doesn't have the publics interest at heart.

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Old 04-11-2018, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Houston
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So the wedding cake was made by a publicly held company? Who knew?
They serve the public.

Just because a company sells stocks on the public market does not mean they are no longer private. The owners don't suddenly relinquish control to the government do they? Hence, they are still a private company.
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Old 04-11-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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At this point in time everyone should realize all tech and social media sites have their own idea of what constitutes acceptable speech, or right and wrong and if you use any of the aforementioned you can not only be censored, but will be tracked and your info sold.
For anyone reading this, its too late.
Once government regulations which establish standards are removed, the void will be filled by corporate rules. Libertarianism will have its limits.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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Bwahahaha! Suddenly, the self-declared conservatives find a liking for strict regulatory oversight.
There is no such thing as a conservative. There are people without ethics and morals that claim to be different things which may rise in popularity.

The right in this country consists largely of Authoritarians. If you took the same exact people and they were born in China or Russia, they'd be marching to the Party Slogans.

About 25% of this country - IMHO (my count)- fits the mold. To those you add all the people who were "born republican" or who make money somehow from the "machine", etc. - and that gets you to about 35%.

Enough to be scary. Education would solve a lot of this, but that is unlikely to happen as part of "clinging to the past" is being inflexible in the ideas you are willing to entertain.

Right Wing Authoritarianism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-...thoritarianism

What I would want these people to know...assuming they are thinking beings...is that folks like me, as left as can be, learned when we were teenagers that "the government lies....early and often". Modern "rebels" seem to think they are the ones who finally realized this...but we've know it since our first run-ins with "the man".

If anything, things are much better now...or at least they were (or could be) before Trump. We have the EPA and the Justice Department and a number of mass movements and civil rights laws and such. Not to say this changes things wholesale....a lot depends on YOU.

Believe me, the government could not...and would not...lie as much if you didn't eat it up. Look at the Iraq War. Look at Trump. Y'all are ready to accept ANY and EVERY boldfaced lie.

When they said Saddam was using a mobile lab to make chemical weapons...and showed the skeleton of a small truck, did you ever sit back and think "no way a small truck could ever be part of a true industrial program to make and deliver chemical weapons to the USA?". Of course you didn't. You made up a scenario in your head where the boogie man took a 55 gallon drum, shipped it to the USA and placed it on your block.

THINK. ACT. VOTE. Thank you!
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:47 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Facebook ceased being a "private company" the day it went public on the stock market. It should be treated as any business that serves the public and subject to the laws against discrimination or violations of constitutional rights.
Um no.

You are probably one of those types that think the mall is public property because it is accessible to the general public (and no longer qualifies as private property).
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:50 PM
 
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And zuckerberg has said their AI will be able to censor “hate speech” in real time in a few years.

It’s all very 1984. Control the words people can use, control their thoughts.

The future looks very dim.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:57 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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So the wedding cake was made by a publicly held company? Who knew?
The judge ruled that the wedding cake case was an instance of discrimination. Something that the couple has no control over .... like the color of skin. They just are. This was ruled to fall under the Civil Rights Acts and does apply to private entities as well.

If that "wedding cake couple" entered into the cake store protesting and saying things that were counter to what the store stood for. The cake store, privately owned just like FB, has the right to make the couple leave the store. 1st amendment rights protects one from government suppressing free speech but not private entities. Similarly, FB has the right to moderate and filter content to their discretion.

If you don't like how they do business (cake store or FB.. or whatever) then simply take your business elsewhere.

This is an apples to oranges comparison.


The real concern here isn't about censorship.... it is whether or not FB collected data from non-FB users who did not accept the TOS and or violated their own TOS when it comes to user data.
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