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Old 04-12-2018, 10:31 AM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU


Very interesting. The section where the past and present role of the horse is discussed is a very good illustration of the type of direction we’re headed for.
Thanks for sharing this. Interesting times we live in.
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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If it works, it will literally eliminate poverty in this country, but....

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Entrepreneur Andrew Yang has a big goal for a relatively unknown business person: to reach the White House. And he's aiming to get there by selling America on the idea that all citizens, ages 18-64, should get a check for $1,000 every month, no strings attached, from the U.S. government.

Yang, 43, who was born in upstate New York in 1975, will be running as a Democrat, according to his campaign website.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/andr...-handouts.html
and for the average person living in poverty that still would not be enough to support themselves unless they would still qualify for section 8, food stamps, medicade,etc.Of course we all know he is going nowhere in his bid.
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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If it works, it will literally eliminate poverty in this country, but....

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Entrepreneur Andrew Yang has a big goal for a relatively unknown business person: to reach the White House. And he's aiming to get there by selling America on the idea that all citizens, ages 18-64, should get a check for $1,000 every month, no strings attached, from the U.S. government.

Yang, 43, who was born in upstate New York in 1975, will be running as a Democrat, according to his campaign website.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/andr...-handouts.html

Not nearly enough money. And what about those over 64, whose income from Soc. Sec. is less than that amount?
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Will a robot be able to feel the haunting emotion in a Beethoven symphony and convey it? Or stir people
with the words of one of Shakespeare's monologues? Will a robot be able to feel the poignancy of nature while capturing an image in art or photography?

Robots will not and cannot have souls.

They are not made by God.

And so no matter what they can do better than humans, no matter what efficiencies they excel at, they will always fail to connect us to a state of Grace.
Well, then, there's the solution: just create more jobs for classical musicians, actors, playwrights, and artists. That should cover every factory worker or call center employee who has been displaced by automation, shouldn't it?

I agree with you that there are some things people will always do better, but to suggest that automation will not have an impact is absurd.
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Old 04-12-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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And here I thought $15/hr (15x40=600 per week or 2400 per month) was the utopia that the left wanted? So now less than 50% of that is the solution? Also explain how just handing people $1k per month is going to result in them making good financial decisions with it.
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:02 PM
 
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This is inevitable. The changes in automation are different this time compared to the past. We will soon create things that are better then us in every way as far as work goes. Once that occurs we will be forced to provide for people who can no longer find work. And the money will absolutely be there.

BUT.

That is not today. nor is it in the next 5 years. So while I think there is a lot of value in discussing it-and even in doing small tests of it, I think anyone talking about implementing it today is wrong. Its not needed today. Could we? Sure. but we shouldn't do so now.
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:03 PM
 
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And where will all this money be coming from? $1,000 a month multiplied by 300 million plus people? Sounds like the typical pandering Democrats do to the entitlement crowd.
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Well, then, there's the solution: just create more jobs for classical musicians, actors, playwrights, and artists. That should cover every factory worker or call center employee who has been displaced by automation, shouldn't it?

I agree with you that there are some things people will always do better, but to suggest that automation will not have an impact is absurd.
Where did I say automation wouldn't have an impact?

And in your hurry to belittle me, you missed the point, which is that humans will still need a human connection that cannot be programmed into AI.
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:23 PM
 
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Not nearly enough money. And what about those over 64, whose income from Soc. Sec. is less than that amount?
If you are poor, you can move to Kansas with $1000/month.
I used to live there and with $600 you can rent a decent apartment. I lived in a college town where prices are slightly higher than in other towns.

A poor couple can live with $2000. More than enough. Maybe they can also make some money here and there.
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Old 04-12-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Boston
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just print money and hand it out. What could go wrong?
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