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Old 05-22-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure this won't get an answer, but do you care to compare the number of indictments tied to Obama and the number of guilty pleas tied to him versus the ones against Trump?

Hint: It's not even close.
Trump in a landslide and more to come and we are barely into his second year!

 
Old 05-22-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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How many indictments connected to Obama? How many guilty pleas? Want to compare? I'll show you mine if you can show me yours
If you could you would.
 
Old 05-22-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Trump: President for Life!
This isn't the DPRK, that's not how it works.
 
Old 05-22-2018, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Trump and the GOP are lying every day. The attack on the FBI is just a perfect example.
 
Old 05-22-2018, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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So I spent a bit of time tracking this down

June, 2016 - Trump Tower meeting with Don Jr., Kushner, Manafort, and Russian lawyer/informant, Natalia Veselnitskaya, with the understanding she would provide dirt on Clinton. Smart money is that she was looking to trade this for help repealing the sanctions against Russians associated with the 2012 Magnitsky Act.

August 2016 - Briefing by the FBI warning Trump officials about attempts by foreign government, Russia, to spy on the campaign.

Trump received FBI warning that Russians would try to infiltrate campaign: report | TheHill

August 2016 - "An emissary for two Gulf state princes, a social-media-manipulating Israeli, and former Blackwater chief Erik Prince met with Donald Trump Jr. at Trump Tower to offer help to the campaign."

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...mp-russia-case

Unclear on whether the FBI was told in August about the June meeting with Veselnitskaya, but it does sound like the Aug. meeting was not reported.
Not sure if the dates of the warning were before or after the 2 meetings. The Trump Campaign did not report those meetings.

Totally Un-American.
 
Old 05-22-2018, 02:55 PM
 
Location: DFW
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I'm pretty sure this won't get an answer, but do you care to compare the number of indictments tied to Obama and the number of guilty pleas tied to him versus the ones against Trump?.
Obama weaponized the IRS and we are now seeing how he weaponized the FBI / DOJ against Trump. So far no evidence has even gotten close to Trump.

But if you want to see how corrupt the FBI / DOJ is under Obama check out the long list on the attached list of the people how have been fired, demoted, retired because of this Investigation. This Investigation is just starting to reveal the corruption used by Obama and Clinton to win this election and once it was lost, to overturn Trump Presidency

Check out this long list of corrupt Obama followers.

https://www.themarketswork.com/2018/...-participants/

This is just a partial list.

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Resignations/Firings – Department of Justice (Non-FBI):

John Carlin – Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – announced resignation on September 27, 2016 after filing the Government’s proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications on September 26, 2016. The filing does not disclose known FISA Abuses. Carlin is aware NSA Rogers is conducting a compliance review which will uncover the FISA Abuse. The 2016 certifications are scheduled for Court approval on October 26, 2016. Trump surveillance originated under Carlin’s tenure.
Sally Yates – Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General (replacing Loretta Lynch – 10 days) – fired January 30, 2017. Complicit in Flynn Surveillance and surveillance of Trump Campaign.
Mary McCord – Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division (replacing John Carlin) – announced resignation on April 17, 2017 – Left on May 11, 2017. Complicit in Flynn Surveillance and surveillance of Trump Campaign.
Peter Kadzik – Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs. Resigned January 2017. On May 19, 2015, Kadzik sent Podesta an email appearing to tip off Clinton Campaign about the Justice Department’s review of Clinton’s emails.
Bruce Ohr – Associate Deputy Attorney General – demoted twice. Stripped of Associate Deputy Attorney General title on December 6, 2017. Removed as head of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force January 8, 2018. Unofficial liaison between Fusion GPS and FBI/DOJ. Wife worked at Fusion. Long-standing ties to both Christopher Steele and Glenn Simpson/Fusion GPS.
David Laufman – DOJ National Security Division, Deputy Asst. Attorney General in charge of counterintelligence – resigned on February 7, 2018. Laufman “played a leading role in the Clinton email server and Russian hacking investigations.”
Rachel Brand – Associate Attorney General – number three official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – resigned February 9, 2018. Takes top legal position at Walmart. Brand “played a critical role in Congress’ re-authorization” of section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
Matthew Axelrod – Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General. May have been individual who had phone call with Deputy FBI Director McCabe re: Clinton Foundation. From IG McCabe Report: “A senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant…” Axelrod resigned on January 30, 2017 when AG Sally Yates was fired.
Preet Bharara – U.S. District Attorney. Involved in Prevezon Case. Used as threat by AG Lynch re: Weiner email/Clinton email case. Fired by President Trump on March 11, 2017.

Resignations/Firings – FBI:

James Comey – FBI Director – fired May 9, 2017. Oversaw all FBI operations – including exoneration of Clinton and Trump-Russia Investigation. Reported to AG Lynch.
Andrew McCabe – Deputy FBI Director – on December 23, 2017 announced retirement effective March 22, 2018. Forced to resign active position on January 29, 2018. Fired on March 16, 2018. Involved in all aspects. Subject of IG Report – will be featured in future ones. Reported to Comey.
Peter Strzok – Deputy Assistant Director of FBI’s Counterintelligence – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017 to FBI’s Human Resources. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Strzok involved in all facets of Clinton exoneration. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Lisa Page – FBI/DOJ Lawyer – forced off Mueller’s team – demoted August 16, 2017. IG Horowitz discovered texts July 27, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group. Page resigned/fired May 4, 2016.
James Baker – FBI General Counsel – demoted and reassigned on December 20, 2017. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group. Senior-most legal counsel at FBI. Baker resigned/fired May 4, 2016. Took position at Lawfare.
James Rybicki – Chief of Staff to FBI Director James Comey & successor Chris Wray – resigned/forced out January 23, 2018. Working member of “Insurance Policy” group.
Josh Campbell – Special Assistant to James Comey – resigned on February 2, 2018. Writes op-ed in New York Times on why he is leaving but does not disclose in op-ed that he was Special Assistant to Comey – or that he had been offered lucrative CNN job. Takes job with CNN on February 5, 2018.
Michael Kortan – FBI Asst. Director Public Affairs – resigned on February 8, 2018 – effective February 15, 2018. Kortan served as assistant director for public affairs, an influential job that controlled media access.
Greg Brower (FBI) – Assistant Director for the Office of Congressional Affairs. FBI’s liaison with Congress. Listed by Devin Nunes as one of the individuals he wants to interview. Resigned suddenly on March 30, 2018.
James Turgal (FBI) – Executive Assistant Director for Information and Technology Branch. Retired from FBI sometime prior to January 9, 2018.
Michael B. Steinbach (FBI) – Executive Assistant Director for the National Security Branch. Was FBI’s top national security official. Some reports state Steinbach replaced John Giacalone who quit over frustration with Clinton Investigation. Other reports say it was McCabe who replaced Giacalone. Steinbach claims to have personally handled the Clinton Email Investigation. Retired from FBI in February 2017.
Bill Priestap – Assistant Director – Head of FBI Counterintelligence – Holds same position. Strzok’s boss – reported directly to McCabe. More here, here and here.

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Old 05-22-2018, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The list is one which Trump and damaging information go together. Trump pushed all those out who have seen the truth of the corrupt Trump Campaign and administration.

Trump is afraid of the truth
 
Old 05-22-2018, 03:32 PM
 
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Not sure if the dates of the warning were before or after the 2 meetings. The Trump Campaign did not report those meetings.

Totally Un-American.
From what I can tell, one was before and one after the FBI warning.

Have not seen any reports that the FBI was told about either meeting.

Though, when the FBI warned them in August would have been a perfect time to say, "You are so right. In fact, a Russian lawyer tricked us into a meeting a few months ago. Right here in Trump Towers, no less. Nothing came of it, but we thought it was odd. It's all starting to make sense now."

 
Old 05-22-2018, 03:36 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure this won't get an answer, but do you care to compare the number of indictments tied to Obama and the number of guilty pleas tied to him versus the ones against Trump?

Hint: It's not even close.
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Trump in a landslide and more to come and we are barely into his second year!
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If you could you would.
Typical Trumpeter. Won't answer questions, but tries to deflect.
 
Old 05-22-2018, 03:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post
Obama weaponized the IRS and we are now seeing how he weaponized the FBI / DOJ against Trump. So far no evidence has even gotten close to Trump.

But if you want to see how corrupt the FBI / DOJ is under Obama check out the long list on the attached list of the people how have been fired, demoted, retired because of this Investigation. This Investigation is just starting to reveal the corruption used by Obama and Clinton to win this election and once it was lost, to overturn Trump Presidency

Check out this long list of corrupt Obama followers.

https://www.themarketswork.com/2018/...-participants/

This is just a partial list.
Nice try at deflection. There is not one indictment or guilty plea in the bunch.

Try again. And try to be honest this time.
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