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Old 05-06-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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ok...and then those 'others' as they for a union (commune), they now have extra influence to enslave they non-commune people


Marxism is enslavement to the MOB....MOB RULE
We went over this before and he doesn't understand that a solitary man being forced to "hear out" the syndicate's pitch to use his water supply because their factory is on fire means you've consumed his time and his mental resources.

It's slavery...plain and simple.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Recess forgets that capitalism only gives power and freedom to the hands of the owners of the means of production.

They then benevolently hand down benefits to others. Just like in Kingdoms.
What utter bullsh*t you say. The owners swap $$$ to those able and willing to exchange it for labor, which is power in and of itself. Open your other eye, you only seeming half the picture.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:43 PM
 
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Hard to argue with a Communists ,If they don't agree with you ,you get hit on the head with a big hammer then get your head sliced off with a sickle.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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What utter bullsh*t you say. The owners swap $$$ to those able and willing to exchange it for labor, which is power in and of itself. Open your other eye, you only seeming half the picture.
He is right now I personally don't think capitalism will ever be abolished but it needs to be reigned in with social safety nets and the like. Workers only have power if there labor is valuable if there is a billion workers they have little power and the bosses will exploit that.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:50 PM
 
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He is right now I personally don't think capitalism will ever be abolished but it needs to be reigned in with social safety nets and the like. Workers only have power if there labor is valuable if there is a billion workers they have little power and the bosses will exploit that.
Your social safety net is slavery. Pure and simple.

Communism is slavery in its modern form.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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He is right now I personally don't think capitalism will ever be abolished but it needs to be reigned in with social safety nets and the like. Workers only have power if there labor is valuable if there is a billion workers they have little power and the bosses will exploit that.
Abolish capitalism?

Still waiting for it to happen over here.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Abolish capitalism?

Still waiting for it to happen over here.
I'm not saying its going to either. Since I am a democratic socialist I am willing to work inside a democracy to pass common sense regulations to reign in the power of the wealthy, but I certainly don't think getting rid of capitalism will ever happen.
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Old 05-06-2018, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Your social safety net is slavery. Pure and simple.
Nice slogan lifeexplorer got anything substantive to say?
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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whos property, is it not?? or its not the property of who??


my mind is MY property
my skill is MY property

what I build is MY property
what I create is MY property

who the F are you to INVADE my AO, under threat of the commune to take my property and enslave me


Marxism (communism) aka (the next step after socialism)... is the most evil, (which is understandable since anything from the left is evil) way of any form of society
The bold is correct.

The rest is wrong, you don’t own something that is physically external to you. If we allow for that to be defended only a few will come to power for those who control the external resources control the working class.
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Old 05-06-2018, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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ok...and then those 'others' as they for a union (commune), they now have extra influence to enslave they non-commune people


Marxism is enslavement to the MOB....MOB RULE
Capitalism forces slavery.

Marxism gives you a choice, work by yourself or work with others.

If you are going to work in a group larger than 1 then you need to compromise and work with said people.
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