Iowa Governor Signs Abortion Bill Allegedly Designed As ‘A Vehicle To Overturn Roe v. Wade’

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by janelle144

It happened but not by the numbers they said it did. PP just moved the back alley abortions to main street, women still die and are left sterile or sent to the hospital with medical emergencies when the abortionists bungled them.

Women still are forced to have abortions so there goes choice and are killed by the man who impregnated them doesn't want it.

https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/...30-years-later

"As the availability of legally induced abortion increased, mortality due to abortion dropped sharply: The number of abortion-related deaths per million live births fell from nearly 40 in 1970 to eight in 1976. The trend was caused mainly by a decline in the absolute number of deaths from illegal abortion—especially after Roe v. Wade—from 39 in 1972 to two in 1976. After 1975, mortality due to legally induced abortion also fell—from more than three deaths per 100,000 abortions in 1975 to about one in 1976 and even fewer thereafter."

"Furthermore, in the 1970s, the risk of death related to induced abortion at 16 weeks' gestation or earlier was one-seventh that related to pregnancy and childbirth, even after adjustment for study year, age and race. Today, legal abortion is less likely than an injection of penicillin to cause death."

Originally Posted by golgi1

They will raise them or put them up for adoption.

There is no "forced" pregnancy. The woman has total control when deciding whether or not to have sex.

Given that any woman cannot know if she will die in childbirth (a rare event), that she might does not play into abortion ethics.

Your logic becomes a parody of itself when you proceed to ask us a "what if" about a hypothetical baby death in childbirth in defense of abortion.

"They will raise them or put them up for adoption."

Or abuse them or neglect them.

"The woman has total control when deciding whether or not to have sex."

Do you really believe that?

The risks of pregnancy and childbirth are certainly relevant. Any woman should have the right to decide that the risk of childbirth is unacceptable if there is a lower risk alternative: abortion.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by Seacove

They are anti-everything. Trump asked Bill Gates if vaccines were bad. Like Trump is considering declaring a war on vaccines. Republicans have found the perfect leader for them in Trump. A guy that's not very smart, speaks in insults, hates everyone that is not white, says all the things out loud that they always wanted to say themselves and treats women like the lesser creatures Republicans consider them to be.

Oh, my, that was a little too much TRUTH to absorb even in this rough and crazy world.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

Oh, my, that was a little too much TRUTH to absorb even in this rough and crazy world.

I couldn't believe it either. I have come to believe Trump is very unintelligent. They say he doesn't like to read but I think it's much worse. It's easy to please the evangelicals, just say ugly things about immigration, the poor and abortion. He's falling right in line for those guys and that does not require intelligence.