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Old 05-07-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Bernie Sanders and his supporters liked to call themselves the revolutionary party but when he was cheated out of the nomination Bernie jumped on board with the very people who cheated him and many of his supporters followed. That's not a revolutionary party, that's a controlled wing of the party. They don't like Trump because he is standing up for his beliefs and the media or the old guard can't control him, hence... the hate trump wing
Yeah I felt kind of bad for Bernie voters .
Bernie voters hated Clinton with a passion . I remember some even referring to her on FB as the C word..

But like you said he didn’t have backbone at the end of the day .
His ideas were nuts . $15 federal minimum wage . And promising everything “free”

At least he seems like a decent guy personally . Unlike Clinton .

He’s actually agreed on things with Trump too once in a while .

. He’s spoken out against identity politics after the election . Of course nobody on the left listening to him .
Why Clinton has just ramped up the identity politics stuff .
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Good. Saves me the trouble of turning down the volume.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:46 AM
 
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Interesting point. I look at it this way:

During the entire 8 years of the Bush Presidency the media crucified Bush nearly every day. Bush chose to NEVER respond to it, That pleased the hateful media, since they would not be challenged, Then the 8 years of the Obummer admin and the media was like an obediant lapdog, covering for their MESSiah.

But now, they are getting snippy that someone is challenging their outright lies and omissions. All the while trying to claim that Trump is trying to supress the media...ridiculous
A far more sinister dictatorship is a media dictatorship. Doesn’t the media usually manipulate people's minds, their likes and dislikes? Isn’t it the media that sets cultural, social, artistic and political norms whether you like them or not? And now they're trying to dictate hatred for Trump who has an opposing view from the left and Republicans who don't give a damn about the people. Forget that the people voted him into office, forget that we wanted change, we don't matter.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:50 AM
 
Location: ✶✶✶✶
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A far more sinister dictatorship is a media dictatorship.
There could have never been such a thing before regulations were eroded so that ownership of the mass media could become consolidated enough to form any sort of dictatorship.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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There could have never been such a thing before regulations were eroded so that ownership of the mass media could become consolidated enough to form any sort of dictatorship.
What regulations were eroded that gave mass media dictator power?
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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Yeah I felt kind of bad for Bernie voters .
Bernie voters hated Clinton with a passion . I remember some even referring to her on FB as the C word..

But like you said he didn’t have backbone at the end of the day .
His ideas were nuts . $15 federal minimum wage . And promising everything “free”

At least he seems like a decent guy personally . Unlike Clinton .

He’s actually agreed on things with Trump too once in a while .

. He’s spoken out against identity politics after the election . Of course nobody on the left listening to him .
Why Clinton has just ramped up the identity politics stuff .
I know some Bernie voters and they didn't hate Clinton, they liked Bernie -- and yeah boy did they hate Trump.

But yeah some Bernie voters didn't like Clinton and some didn't like Trump.

And both parties are guilty of identity politics. I know that historically the Dems started it and it worked for them (however wrong it was), so the Republicans jumped on the train and happily share the tactic with the Dems now.

It's ridiculous to keep blaming just the Dems of it.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Reminds me of an Obama Rally...

I,I,I,I, Me, Me,Me,Me wonderful, killed Bin Laden, you can keep your doctor.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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So watch it on FOX.

Why should every TV channel broadcast something people are tired of seeing?


You mean like the liberal cable channels do with the Russian conclusion story 24/7? I can't remember liberals getting tired of Obama eight years of campaign speeches.

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No Hitler would have whined unless ALL channels broadcasted it. You know, like you are doing now....
Why is it liberals throw around the 'Hitler' reference all the time....you know how stupid that makes liberal sound?
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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I know some Bernie voters and they didn't hate Clinton, they liked Bernie -- and yeah boy did they hate Trump.

But yeah some Bernie voters didn't like Clinton and some didn't like Trump.

And both parties are guilty of identity politics. I know that historically the Dems started it and it worked for them (however wrong it was), so the Republicans jumped on the train and happily share the tactic with the Dems now.

It's ridiculous to keep blaming just the Dems of it.
What identity politics did the Republicans play.
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Old 05-07-2018, 11:01 AM
 
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[/b]You mean like the liberal cable channels do with the Russian conclusion story 24/7? I can't remember liberals getting tired of Obama eight years of campaign speeches.



Why is it liberals throw around the 'Hitler' reference all the time....you know how stupid that makes liberal sound?
A friend of mine lives in Germany. While liberals were playing the race card in the U.S., liberals in Germany were playing the Nazi card. If you dare to speak out against the massive influx of immigrants from Syria into Germany, German liberals would accuse you of being a Nazi. Obviously the race card has lost it's effectiveness so they had to move on to the Hitler card. It's simply a way to make people think twice before talking about an apposing view.

Now who has the biggest bullhorn to play this card? The media does yet they blame everyone else for division (or is that for disagreeing with them?).

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