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Old 05-11-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Who legislated shooting people with mental health issues bc cops don't know how to deescalate a situation?
How are you supposed to (1) know who is or isn't mentally ill rolling up on a call and (2)deescalate an armed man point a gun at everybody?
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Ask the people in other civilized countries where their police dont shoot from the hip, arent idiots and dont get killed.
BTW, alot of police departments here DO work with de-escalation technics, its the ones that dont that are screwing up all the time.

But in this country, the towns D.A. and prosecutors make sure to get their bad cops off the hook to keep people afraid and docile, which makes people like you rationalize away extremely bad police behavior, they keep you fooled. So its working and they want it to stay that way. But it wont for much longer.



Ask people in other countries why they have more culturally ingrained respect for police instead of entire culture sets that celebrate contempt for law enforcement.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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Ask people in other countries why they have more culturally ingrained respect for police instead of entire culture sets that celebrate contempt for law enforcement.
They have more respect ingrained for the police in other civilized countries because the police arent setup to kill with impunity.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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And yet that doesn't stop Conservatives from fawning over them whenever they feel like our police forces are turning the violence towards people they're okay with.

If Conservatives really believed that, then "Just comply" would never be acceptable excuse for police use of force. Fact is the overwhelming majority of Conservatives just play lip service to points like that when in fact they are the most supportive group in America of a police state.
Conservatives are Statists, just like liberals.
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Would you ever defend a mugger for shooting his victim b/c the victim didn't just comply? "Oh it's partially his fault that he'd dead, if he just listened and gave up his phone exactly how the mugger asked"
Do you always pay your taxes? If you don't pay tribute to the State, they arrest you. If you defend yourself, they shoot you.

Would you ever defend the State for shooting its victim b/c the victim didn't just comply? "Oh it's partially his fault that he's dead, if he just listened and gave up his income exactly how the State asked."
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Old 05-11-2018, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Most of the conservatives I know believe in maintaining law and order. It's the libertarians and anarcho-capitalists who appear to join with left and consider police the enemy.
Leftists consider cops the enemy for entirely different reasons than do libertarians. Libertarians understand that cops are the unionized, pensioned, revenue collecting goons for the State, and are completely antithetical to freedom.
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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They have more respect ingrained for the police in other civilized countries because the police arent setup to kill with impunity.


Police cannot "kill with impunity" here ....that kind of rhetoric doesn't help the situation at all.

And it's lead to more and more people thinking they can disobey and generally act the fool with police without consequences.

I've had multiple encounters with police in my lifetime, most of which were when I was young and stupid and doing something I shouldn't have been.

But even back then I was smart enough to know that if I challenged a cop, it would end badly for me.
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:25 PM
 
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my favorite was the female cop shot that big guy because she was scared, all while being filed from helicopter

cops are the only industrial where its legal to kill people. just because they are scared
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:27 PM
 
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i think we need to disarm cops, they have proven repeatedly that they can't be responsible with a firearm.


if you are not going play nice johnny, we are going take your toys away
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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cops are the only industrial where its legal to kill people. just because they are scared
You forgot the military.
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