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So you are going to ignore the fact that Louis Farakhan has an actual message of self-determination and self-actualization for black people......
I'm not ignoring it, it's just that he qualifies that with exhortations to kill Jews and Whites to do so, which is unacceptable. If Candace was calling for killing people to self-determine and self-actualize oneself, I'd discount what she says, as well.
It's amazing how she blames LBJ and the Government for black men & women not marrying each other due to welfare!
Really? The Government created this issue for black people only?
Are white mothers also not married because of welfare?
I'll have thos ******s voting Democrat for 200 years - Lyndon Bynes Johnson
Candace Owens offers absolutely no solution to the most pervasive problem of racism.
There are several adjustments we as a society should make in order to change our collective American culture.
Candace is correct when it comes to the importance of family, culture, and education. However, she's wrong when it comes to the civil rights initiatives made by LBJ and others.
Civil Rights were required in the past and still are needed in order to counter the persistent problem of racial discrimination.
The most formidable change we as a country need to make is to completely restructure our educational system. America needs to focus upon becoming more efficient at actually teaching our youth. We need to begin focusing much more upon "writng" in English and STEM topics.
All future American high school graduates should be qualified to receive Associate degrees and NOT the typically useless diplomas. All Americans who receive Associate's degrees should have the options of joining the military, pursuing employment from the private sector, or registering for automatic governmental employment. AGE will then assign each individual to work for some level of government within the scope of their Associate's degree. Each new recipient of an Associate's degree will have exactly 90 days to apply for an option, unless exempted due to some significant exclusionary reason.
Those not qualified to receive Associate degrees in a timely manner will become automatically drafted into the military. Upon completion of their military service, they will receive the equivalent of an Associate's degree along with their "honorable" discharge.
The first four years of post secondary education should be free to all qualified Americans who cannot financially afford college. Educational loans should be unavailable to all those pursuing the equivalent of a Bachelor's degree.
We do need to implement greater control over our air waves. Some things that qualify as entertainment are toxic to developing minds and should be classified as "noise pollution"...
The subjects of "History" and "Social Studies", should be presented to all secondary students from the months of May thru September. All subjects should also always be available Online throughout the extended school year.
These changes will essentially abolish Welfare and decrease the gap between the rich and the poor simultaneously.
Also, sex education and emphasis upon the significance of Family, Family structure, and making responsible economic decisions should be stressed beginning at age 12. No android phones allowed prior to age 12.
yes she does. stop looking for it everywhere. it exists mostly in between the ears of the people seeing it.
I'm not ignoring it, it's just that he qualifies that with exhortations to kill Jews and Whites to do so, which is unacceptable. If Candace was calling for killing people to self-determine and self-actualize oneself, I'd discount what she says, as well.
He actually hasn't said to kill Jews or Whites - he just thinks they are evil devils lol. He actually has some success in creating a "black nation within a nation" in that his organization has a track record of reducing crime in specific neighborhoods, being highly educated, having high marriage rates, and higher than average incomes for black Americans.
As stated - you all placing this woman on a pedestal is ridiculous. She talks a lot of talk that she knows you want to hear - that's her job - telling you what you want to hear - but other black people who actually "act" and who have a track record of doing so whether they are individuals or groups - you don't support or even acknowledge them (or their history - the NOI is over 100 years old and was based on an older black organization - the Moorish Science Temple, which is still in existence) when they have the same/similar message because they want to demonize, ignore and/or exclude whites from the narrative and don't like or trust white people.
Again, you all are pretty hilarious and these ideals are not rare to the average black person in this country. We hold them, but not in a way you like because we don't spout your talking points and literally - like Kandace - act as your "servant/slave" and do what "massa" tells us to do or say what "massa" tells us to say on Fox News lol.
He actually hasn't said to kill Jews or Whites - he just thinks they are evil devils lol. He actually has some success in creating a "black nation within a nation" in that his organization has a track record of reducing crime in specific neighborhoods, being highly educated, having high marriage rates, and higher than average incomes for black Americans.
As stated - you all placing this woman on a pedestal is ridiculous. She talks a lot of talk that she knows you want to hear - that's her job - telling you what you want to hear - but other black people who actually "act" and who have a track record of doing so whether they are individuals or groups - you don't support or even acknowledge them (or their history - the NOI is over 100 years old and was based on an older black organization - the Moorish Science Temple, which is still in existence) when they have the same/similar message because they want to demonize, ignore and/or exclude whites from the narrative and don't like or trust white people.
Again, you all are pretty hilarious and these ideals are not rare to the average black person in this country. We hold them, but not in a way you like because we don't spout your talking points and literally - like Kandace - act as your "servant/slave" and do what "massa" tells us to do or say what "massa" tells us to say on Fox News lol.
Wanted to address this separately for you Volobjectitarian...
Are you of the belief that black people blindly follow white liberals today?
I don't have a belief in >90% bloc majority favoring Democrats, it's an observable fact. Election after election, regardless of how Democrats govern at the local, state and federal level, they enjoy >90% loyalty from the black voter.
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Do you truly believe that a majority of black people in America actually trust whites - no matter their political ideology.
I won't speak to what a majority believes or trusts, but I can again speak to how >90% of those who do vote seem to believe in when they vote, which is the liberal bill of goods, whether they ever live up to promises or not, never seems to matter.
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As Malcolm said, all whites are untrustworthy. Contrary to what you believe, a majority of black Americans, and especially those of us who vote, we are not ignorant of the latter - that white Americans - no matter their political ideology are NOT going to provide us any real camaraderie or "assistance" on any high level for all the issues and topics of importance to us.
Then why such rock solid, dependable loyalty to one of the two parties/ideologies you claim not to trust? I'd think if your claim is true, that the majority of the black voter doesn't trust either party/ideology, that 3rd party voting among black voters would be dramatically higher, or if nothing else, such rigid loyalty to Democrats would be dramatically lower. But year after year, election after election...that's not what we see. What we see is black people not trusting anyone EXCEPT DEMOCRATS, to the tune of >90% majorities.
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That is why after Malcolm and MLK's assassination that black people, in our own organizations made it a mission to elect black people instead of relying on white liberals or whites in general to take our issues and do what we wanted done. This is especially the case on the local level in particular, which is why it is always funny to me that people like you bring up Malcolm's words as if no black people knew about it, heeded them, and took action based on those truths - that whites are not out for our best interests.
But look at the cities where the black Democrat has held a rock solid lock on power at the local level, and ask how it is there isn't blind loyalty, given the vote rarely improving anything and quite often resulting in a further decline of the local situation?
No matter what skin color you wrap the politician in, it's still unswerving loyalty to liberal/Democrat politics...regardless of what happens from year to year at the ground level.
It may very well be the case you and every other black voter condemns all these liberal policies on your front porch, at happy hour or during the weekend barbecue with the neighbors, but all anyone ca see and verify is >90% agreement/acceptance/defense of those policies because that's how the community votes. If the Democrats or their policies are doing you wrong, they'll never know since they never worry about getting your vote.
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Will note that I am giving you an "in" on many aspects of black politics in America and it is interesting that you and others constantly ignore what I am telling you. By and large, black people do not trust white people AT ALL in this country 100% (some maybe 50% and it depends on the white individual - but if given the choice of trusting a black Dem and a white Dem, we'd trust the black one because to us, someone who is black automatically in many cases means they are more trustworthy - unless of course you are a special negro like Kandace or some other special negro who consistently aligns themselves with whites in regards to buying into and inherently believing negative steroetypes of our demographic). We believe liberals are just as racist as conservatives. So you all trying to tell us that we are ignorant of this is a silly thing to the average black voter and black person in America period and is a reason why we cannot take you seriously and a reason why I personally can look beyond the BS you are spouting and know that you are just re-hasing the crap you see/read in conservative media,blogs,or social media sites - same way you think white liberals have an influence on us - your media influences you about us and you are "drugged" and "placated" on the idea that we are stupid dumba$$es and you have all the answers for our mystical woes. It is hilarious to me!
You all say the same stuff about us and hilariously think we worship, believe and follow some white liberals. It is literally hysterical to me and hysterical even to my black friends who I consider "Super Democrats."
Per this block and the highlighted in particular...what you say is contraindicated by the votes. That's a fact. If you don't trust white people at all, liberal or conservative, and think white liberals are just as racist as white conservatives, and you are all the way on board with el Hajj Malik el Shabazz and not trusting the white devil at all....then WHY WHY WHY do white liberal politicians get >90% of your vote loyalty in every single election all over this country, year after year after year ad nauseum?
I am not trying to get you to vote for the white conservative devil, or trust government at all. Please don't. By all means. I don't trust any politician in any party no matter what...hence being a libertarian, non-statist generally...but your rhetoric on how you don't trust white liberals, and your innuendo and actual open claims that I am some kind of cartoonish, racist villain for suggesting you do...is totally contraindicated by black voting totals in every election cycle at every level. How do you square the "never gonna trust the white devil" talk with the >90% vote loyalty to the white devil walk?
You can try to retreat to the "lesser of two evils" thing, but that dog won't hunt because you are trusting the white liberal to do a thing you don't trust the white conservative to do, meaning, you give them your trust by giving them your consent to govern you. And the real lesser of evils is ANY 3rd party, be it green, socialist workers, commie, libertarian, or even a newly minted Black Power Coalition or something like that. If the black vote abandoned BOTH parties filled with white devils, then those white devils would all be in a freaking panic and maybe 50+ years of party dominance in various cities like Detroit, Philly, Chicago et al wouldn't happen and surely wouldn't produce the disastrous results they have in those cities.
You talk serious game about your voting independence, but the actual vote results call you a liar. That contradiction is on you, and it doesn't make me anything other than observant for pointing it out. But if you need to keep trying to deflect a solid point you cannot seem to refute, by calling me a racist...okie doke. Keep living the lie.
I take it, you are not versed in US history, to be participating in this thread.
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