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Old 05-17-2018, 01:58 AM
 
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Doesn't matter if the dossier was used to partly justify FISA warrants or other intel assessments because most of the dossier has turned out to be true.
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It doesn't matter how many time you repeat that lie, it won't make it true.
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In your dreams....everyone involved have repeated that nothing has been verified.
sorry elliot, but the dossier was complete fiction, with perhaps just enough truth in it to give it a modicum of credibility. the fact is the dossier was never intended to be used in a court of any kind since its use would be perjury, and subornation of perjury, which would get a prosecutor fired and disbarred.

it was only supposed to be used in the campaign against trump.

one more thing, since the dossier is in fact false, remove it from the FISA warrant application, and the warrant never gets approved.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:53 AM
 
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Doesn't matter if the dossier was used to partly justify FISA warrants or other intel assessments because most of the dossier has turned out to be true.

Another internet "lawyer" who desn't know squat about the law!


"he dossier has turned out to be true"


Only in your dreams!
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:48 AM
 
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Please list 5 allegations the Steele dossier that is wrong?
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Please list 5 allegations the Steele dossier that is wrong?

I'll give you 6


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"The Steele dossier makes six major collusion claims, none proven"



https://www.vox.com/2018/1/5/1684570...r-russia-trump


Read it for yourself.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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Please list 5 allegations the Steele dossier that is wrong?
Please list even just one allegation of collusion that is true.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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The only thing in the Dossier that is true. Trump went to Moscow.
Wrong.

The dossier spoke at length about Russian counter-intel and cybercrime operations on US soil. TRUE.

The dossier specifically named Cohen as a go-between and met with Russians in Europe. TRUE.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:06 AM
 
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I'll give you 6


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"The Steele dossier makes six major collusion claims, none proven"



https://www.vox.com/2018/1/5/1684570...r-russia-trump


Read it for yourself.
You do understand the difference between 'false' and 'unverified,' right?

There are some verified claims in the dossier, and some that have yet to be verified.

If there were any claims that were 100% false, you would have a list of them ready to go. Fox News would have that list running on its ticker all day long.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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Doesn't matter if the dossier was used to partly justify FISA warrants or other intel assessments because most of the dossier has turned out to be true.
Actually, most of it has been outed as a fictitious pile o'crap, and a badly written one, at that.

Why isn't anybody seeking an answer to the most important question in this fiasco: "Why did Obama illegally use the nation's foreign counterintelligence assets to infiltrate and spy on the presidential campaign of the opposing party?"

If Nixon had even suggested such a thing back in the day, his political opponents would have advocated burning him at the stake. But Obama didn't stop at the mere suggestion...he actually caused the illegal surveillance to occur.

Another question nobody seems to be asking, but which also deserves an answer: "When did it become part of the chartered purposes of the CIA and the FBI to determine who the next president should be?"
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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You do understand the difference between 'false' and 'unverified,' right?

There are some verified claims in the dossier, and some that have yet to be verified.

If there were any claims that were 100% false, you would have a list of them ready to go. Fox News would have that list running on its ticker all day long.
That's just word play.

They have had plenty of time to verify them and they can't. Ten years from now, or 50, no change and they would be unverified the way you propose it. After a year and more that makes them false in every reasonable sense.
Some were unbelievable fabrications from the start. Out right lies. No excuse.
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:34 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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Doesn't matter if the dossier was used to partly justify FISA warrants or other intel assessments because most of the dossier has turned out to be true.
First off you're a liar. You know very well most of the dossier has not been proven true. you're not mistaken, you're just a flat out liar & everyone knows it.

Second, we don't know if the dossier was used partly, mostly or completely because the FBI won't declassify the application, in spite of the FISA judge saying she sees no reason not to and is fine with them doing so. If the dossier is so meaningless, why'd they include it when they openly admit they hadn't confirmed any of it to be true at the time of submission?

Last, if the other things they used as well as the dossier are also fabricated with the intention on subverting our presidential elections, then they have an even bigger problem on their hands don't they?
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