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Oh I totally believe it. There are alot of parents out there that cant even outsmart their kids when it comes to sneaking around. Usually because theyre too tired from work, bills, tired of raising kids, whatever. Everyone wants a break, and no one wants to believe their kid could be weird. In the majority of the shooters that Ive read about, the parents either turned a blind eye to their weird kids, or just were not sharp enough to notice their kids was weird. Youd think people would be hyper aware especially with the last 15 shootings since 2018 started, but I guess theres too many kids out there for all of the parents to be able to keep an eye out.
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Bad parenting can't cause a kid to become a sociopath
Does that make sense? It's a mental condition, not a learned behavior. That part of the brain that gives human's empathy as a survival trait isn't there in a sociopath.
Bad parenting can lead to a kid getting into drugs, joining a gang or even becoming a murdering thug, but it can't make them a sociopath or schizophrenic. Even the most hardened gang members or terrorists don't kill random people without a legit motive.
You're confusing criminals with people that are legitimately crazy = BIG DIFFERENCE
Bad parenting can't cause a kid to become a sociopath
Does that make sense? It's a mental condition, not a learned behavior. That part of the brain that gives human's empathy as a survival trait isn't there in a sociopath.
Bad parenting can lead to a kid getting into drugs, joining a gang or even becoming a murdering thug, but it can't make them a sociopath or schizophrenic. Even the most hardened gang members or terrorists don't kill random people without a legit motive.
You're confusing criminals with people that are legitimately crazy = BIG DIFFERENCE
NOT ALL THE SHOOTERS ARE SCHIZO OR SOCIOPATHS. But Bad parenting can exacerbate a sociopath.
Many of them are just frustrated teens, frustrated for different reasons. But bad parents ignore the signs, for all these kids, which makes bad parenting some if not most of the problem. If youre kids a schizo, plotting to kill people and you cant pick up on it to do something, youre part of the problem. Parents always want to be left off the hook.
NOT ALL THE SHOOTERS ARE SCHIZO OR SOCIOPATHS. But Bad parenting can exacerbate a sociopath.
Many of them are just frustrated teens, frustrated for different reasons. But bad parents ignore the signs, for all these kids, which makes bad parenting some if not most of the problem. If youre kids a schizo, plotting to kill people and you cant pick up on it to do something, youre part of the problem. Parents always want to be left off the hook.
Frustrated teens don't go on killing sprees. Most of these kids are on psychotropic drugs and have a history of mental issues. If a parent was completely oblivious to the fact that their kid was nuts, the kid wouldn't be on the meds in the first place. You could argue that putting the kid on drugs caused them to take things to another level, but once again, bad parenting doesn't create a psychopathic killer. These 1 in a million types come from all walks of life. Watch a documentary on Ted Bundy, Kip Kinkler or the columbine Massacre. These people came from pretty normal families.
Nationwide, teachers should go on strike (or at least intermittently on strike) until stricter gun laws are passed to protect schools.
Guns have been around for a really, really, really LONG TIME in America, and so has mental illness - and these shootings didn't happen.
So, what has changed?
I don't have that answer, but it does seem there's an element of acting out (or whatever it's called) in a spectacular and power-filled way -- with *NO REGARD* for others; and an element of 'fame' or notoriety, ie the most recent shooter is reported to have said, I wanted them (those I liked and didn't shoot) to tell my story. And I wonder if there's anything to do with (effectively) shoving Judeo-Christian values and religion into the closet, so to speak.
As I said, I don't know. But I do know that guns and mental illness are not new, and yet these shootings by young males are. So what has changed?
(This question was posed by Dennis Prager on his radio show)
The day’s testimony began with the forensic psychologist Katheryn Cranbrook. She had interviewed LaDue for two and a half hours. She said she had examined many juveniles implicated in serious crimes, and they often had an escalating history of aggression, theft, fighting at school, and other antisocial behaviors. LaDue did not. He had, furthermore, been given the full battery of tests for someone in his position—the Structured Assessment of Violence Risk in Youth (SAVRY), the youth version of the Psychopathy Checklists (PCL), and the Risk Sophistication Treatment Inventory (R.S.T.I.)—and the results didn’t raise any red flags. He wasn’t violent or mentally ill. His problem was something far more benign. He was simply a little off. “He has rather odd usage, somewhat overly formal language,†Cranbrook said. “He appears to lack typical relational capacity for family members. . . .He indicates that he would have completed the actions, but he doesn’t demonstrate any concern or empathy for the impact that that could have had on others.†The conclusion of all three of the psychologists who spoke at the hearing was that LaDue had a mild-to-moderate case of autism: he had an autism-spectrum disorder (A.S.D.), or what used to be called Asperger’s syndrome.
The elephant in the room - autism.
He got caught up in school shootings as one of his obsessions. This IS violent. It is not ok because it is autistic. They can be dangerous too if they obsess over the wrong things. They put the obsessions before anything else and you have a problem because they are smart, logical and systematic.
The media needs to stop making the shooters famous by broadcasting their names, faces, motives etc etc..
We might actually be seeing a type of copycat scenario going on. Terrorists do the same thing.
Teens all over the world have angst and problems fitting in with their peers. Teens all over the world have issues figuring out their place in the world and what their future might hold.
The difference with America V. the rest of the world is that we have done a lousy job of raising our kids. For many years we have hoisted the kids up in an artificial bubble that they are special and will always win. Kids have been fed this false narrative by feel good parents and school administrators that don't want kids to get upset so they made everyone a winner. What a crazy notion to not keep score in a sporting game. My niece goes to a school that doesn't have grades on report cards. They dropped the A-F letters in favor of a Satisfactory scale. Where is the incentive when trying to study to raise a C to a B when the report card will read Satisfactory?
We have too many kids that have been mollycoddled, told they are winners and or drugged up to keep them in line.
Well when they get old enough to realize that they are not unique, special and actually that in real life there are winners and losers their entire inflated self worth collapses. Some can handle this big let down and some cannot. Some cry, some turn to drugs or hurting themselves while some turn to hurting others and some pick up guns to murder.
They could take away the guns but we are still going to have terrible scenes where bombs, knives, and trucks are used to kill.
Stop glorifying the terrible carnage from these scenes.
Totally agree with this. The media should not splash the shooter(s)' names and pictures all over the broadcasts and online media, etc. This gives the mass murderers more than 15 minutes of unnecessary infamy. Sigh.
As long as the clueless concentrate on gun control the sociopaths and mentally nuts will walk freely into these soft targets and shoot whoever they want. Nut cases will get weapons if they want them. Until we harden the target restrict access and have an armed security guard at a metal detector the nut cases will continue. Surveillance should begin before students even get to the building. Too bad we can't take the cheap way out and ask for CCW volunteers, but so be it.
How about don't ignore your kid's mental health and stop calling them quirky or special and tiptoe around them because self esteem. They actually complement these narcissists/ psychos, making them even more confident, without actually acknowledging with the evil within. Parents brag about how smart and clever their little psycho is. This is how you grow a violent criminal, let it think it has power over you and everyone else and it accepts that power.
I believe majority of these mass shootings are orchestrated and planned (not necessarily by the gunman either).
Like one poster said above, when Columbine happened, and he was watching the news, he literally could not believe what was happening, it was like a movie...today though, its nothing like that, mass shootings roll off our backs within a few days, Heck, the Vegas shooting was really not that long ago, but no one even talks about it anymore!
This is classic desensitization/ conditioning 101.
It is slowly and methodically changing public opinion on guns in general, think about who benefits from that.
Things become even more blurry when you consider Project MK Ultra was in effect until the 1980s, surely our Govt learned some important things during that time, so it shouldnt be a big surprise when years later, we see them putting them to work or utilizing them.
Totally agree with this. The media should not splash the shooter(s)' names and pictures all over the broadcasts and online media, etc. This gives the mass murderers more than 15 minutes of unnecessary infamy. Sigh.
Combine that with holding parents accountable.
As a kid I never had access to more than a shotgun with a couple shells. The rest were locked away.
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