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Old 05-22-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Although Alaska fossil fuel exports comprise 85% of their economy they are addressing the impact and leading the way in green energy to reduce the impact of climate change. The melting of the permafrost and loss of shoreline is a severe problem, relocation of 31 towns and cities not to mention all the infrastructure being impacted. Quite a different response than some states like Florida where you cant even use the words "climate change".





https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/c...te-change.html
Alaska is NOT fighting climate change!!!!!!


Alaska is being environmentally responsible.


Nothing AK can ever do will impact climate change, however, it will make the environment cleaner and safer.


Climate change remediation is a government ploy to redistribute the wealth.


Climate may be changing but darn sure the government is not doing anything to reverse it.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Alaska is NOT fighting climate change!!!!!!


Alaska is being environmentally responsible.


Nothing AK can ever do will impact climate change, however, it will make the environment cleaner and safer.


Climate change remediation is a government ploy to redistribute the wealth.


Climate may be changing but darn sure the government is not doing anything to reverse it.
I like how you have no evidence for your opinions whatsoever....despite you being so confident about them. This amuses me.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Although Alaska fossil fuel exports comprise 85% of their economy they are addressing the impact and leading the way in green energy to reduce the impact of climate change. The melting of the permafrost and loss of shoreline is a severe problem, relocation of 31 towns and cities not to mention all the infrastructure being impacted. Quite a different response than some states like Florida where you cant even use the words "climate change".
The melting of the permafrost and loss of shoreline also happened during the previous Inter-Glacial Period, when global temperatures were 10.4° F higher than present. And, in fact, it happens during every Inter-Glacial Period.

Encampments and villages had to be relocated then, too.

It's unfortunate Earth's inhabitants did not have a written language to record such events, or otherwise mark the extent of sea-level rise with piles of rocks or large rocks with paintings or obelisks and such for posterity's sake.

It's best to let the Free Market deal with the situation.

Lenders will eventually stop issuing mortgages for sea-side and coastal properties.

As the cost of flood insurance rises, property owners, who are by and large overwhelmingly exorbitantly wealthy will be forced to abandon their properties.

The lenders will call the notes on those mortgages for property owners who cannot afford the increasing costs of flood insurance, or those who have had their flood insurance canceled, since a flood-rider is a prerequisite or condition for granting the mortgage and the failure to maintain a flood-rider constitutes a breach of contract.

Coastal cities and counties will also experience a loss of revenues generated by sales taxes, property taxes and other local taxes.

It won't all happen in one day, rather it will occur over many decades, so as to be barely imperceptible.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:56 PM
 
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While Trump and the GOP say there is no climate change, I look forward to the day when the seas swallow up Mar-a-Lago.

Rising seas could swamp Trump’s ‘Winter White House’ at Mar-a-Lago, scientists say

Rising seas could swamp Trump
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Old 05-22-2018, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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While Trump and the GOP say there is no climate change, I look forward to the day when the seas swallow up Mar-a-Lago.

Rising seas could swamp Trump’s ‘Winter White House’ at Mar-a-Lago, scientists say

Rising seas could swamp Trump
It was predicted 30 years ago that the sea level would rise 20 feet by the year 2000. Didn't happen.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Alaska is NOT fighting climate change!!!!!!


Alaska is being environmentally responsible.


Nothing AK can ever do will impact climate change, however, it will make the environment cleaner and safer.


Climate change remediation is a government ploy to redistribute the wealth.


Climate may be changing but darn sure the government is not doing anything to reverse it.
They are taking action to reduce their generation of CO2 to reduce climate change.


The bolded doesn't make any sense.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
The melting of the permafrost and loss of shoreline also happened during the previous Inter-Glacial Period, when global temperatures were 10.4° F higher than present. And, in fact, it happens during every Inter-Glacial Period.

Encampments and villages had to be relocated then, too.

It's unfortunate Earth's inhabitants did not have a written language to record such events, or otherwise mark the extent of sea-level rise with piles of rocks or large rocks with paintings or obelisks and such for posterity's sake.

It's best to let the Free Market deal with the situation.

Lenders will eventually stop issuing mortgages for sea-side and coastal properties.

As the cost of flood insurance rises, property owners, who are by and large overwhelmingly exorbitantly wealthy will be forced to abandon their properties.

The lenders will call the notes on those mortgages for property owners who cannot afford the increasing costs of flood insurance, or those who have had their flood insurance canceled, since a flood-rider is a prerequisite or condition for granting the mortgage and the failure to maintain a flood-rider constitutes a breach of contract.

Coastal cities and counties will also experience a loss of revenues generated by sales taxes, property taxes and other local taxes.

It won't all happen in one day, rather it will occur over many decades, so as to be barely imperceptible.
This change is over a few decades and the destruction of the permafrost is very perceptible. Prior warming periods occurred for the most part over thousands or millions of years, this warming period is less than a century.




The cost of relocating 31 cities will be an enormous impact.
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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While Trump and the GOP say there is no climate change, I look forward to the day when the seas swallow up Mar-a-Lago.

Rising seas could swamp Trump’s ‘Winter White House’ at Mar-a-Lago, scientists say

Rising seas could swamp Trump
Nobody ever claimed there is no climate change. The climate has been changing for as long as the planet has had an atmosphere. And you won't see Mar-a-Lago under water either. According to NOAA, sea level is rising around the resort at a rate of 1.45 inches per decade, and Mar-a-Lago sits at 16 feet above sea level. You're welcome to keep dreaming though.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:09 PM
 
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Tax American workers...
That’s what the article says, tax, tax, tax. And it will do what when the earth periodically heats and cools.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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This change is over a few decades and the destruction of the permafrost is very perceptible. Prior warming periods occurred for the most part over thousands or millions of years, this warming period is less than a century.




The cost of relocating 31 cities will be an enormous impact.
Sucks to be them.
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