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Old 06-03-2018, 08:12 AM
 
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Sounds like Donny's legal brain trust is working off the idea of one of his predecessors: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."


My he achieve the same result with that attitude.
Bush and Obama argued the same thing concerning Due Process.
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: FL
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The most revealing aspect of this memo from tRump's not-so-brilliant legal team is its lack of substance.

Their argument is the same "imperial presidency" theme that Nixon claimed. "If the president does it, it's not illegal."

And that's their best shot.

There's a legal term for all of this.

Exactly! It isn't like they aren't old enough to remember it.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Who leaked the letter? First of all there is nothing wrong with the premise of the letter. Bill Clinton's lawyers sent a similar letter to Kens Star when Star was conducting bis own with hunt against Clinton. 2nd, doesn't ANYONE find it a little odd that someone in the FBI or perhaps Muller himself leaked this letter to the NY Times of all media outlets, yet he has leaked nothing about his investigation. This entire investigation is terribly disturbing.
I think Trump leaked it himself. He tweeted before the story hit.
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Old 06-03-2018, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yep. And the righties will lap it all up, even as they at the same time whine about how "government has too much power" while supporting Trump, the man-child who thinks he's a king. Their two-faced hypocrisy is just disgusting at this point.
Disgusting, yes.

But very consistent.

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Old 06-03-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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The Washington Post and MSM are proved to be correct and accurate again, while Team trump is proved to have lied again. This time on the WH statement about trump's involvement in the letter to the NYT about Don Jr.'s meeting with the Russians.

Orginally Jay Sekolow said trump had NO INVOLVEMENT in the letter that he admitted was prepared on board Air Force One.

A few days later, Sara Suckabee said trump had 'WEIGHED IN ON IT, as any father would.'

At the time, WaPo reprted that trump Sr. had DICTATED the letter himself. The WH vehemently DENIED the WaPo story.

Now, in the letter from trump's lawyers to Mueller, trump ADMITS DICTATING that letter.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/02/p...ans/index.html
In a confidential letter to special counsel Robert Mueller in January, President Donald Trump's legal team acknowledged for the first time that Trump "dictated" the first misleading statement put out about his son's controversial 2016 meeting with Russians at Trump Tower.

"You have received all of the notes, communications and testimony indicating that the President dictated a short but accurate response to the New York Times article on behalf of his son, Donald Trump, Jr.," the letter said, according to The New York Times, which published a copy of it.

After the initial statement came out, news outlets reported Trump was involved in preparing the statement. Some reports said he helped draft it, others said he personally "dictated" the words.

In their public responses to the news reports, however, Sekulow and White House press secretary Sarah Sanders denied Trump's role.

The letter revealed on Saturday puts to bed the question of Trump's involvement, but it doesn't erase the previous denials from the record. Here are those examples.

Trump lawyer Sekulow, CNN interview, 7/12/17: "That was written, no that was written by Donald Trump Jr. and I'm sure with consultation with his lawyer. That wasn't written by the president."

Sekulow, ABC interview, 7/12/17: "The president didn't sign off on anything. He was coming back from the G20. The statement that was released Saturday was released by Donald Trump Jr., I'm sure in consultation with his lawyers. The President wasn't involved in that."


Sekulow, NBC interview, 7/16/17: "The President was not — did not — draft the response. The response came from Donald Trump Jr. and — I'm sure — in consultation with his lawyer. ... Let me say this — but I do want to be clear — that the President was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue the statement. It came from Donald Trump Jr.

Sekulow, statement to the Washington Post, 7/31/17: "Apart from being of no consequence, the characterizations are misinformed, inaccurate, and not pertinent."

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders, daily press briefing, 8/1/17: "He certainly didn't dictate, but he -- like I said, he weighed in, offered suggestion like any father would do."
"You have received all of the notes communications and testimony indicating that the President dictated a short but accurate response to the New York Times article on behalf of his son, Donald Trump, Jr."
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/giuliani-t...opstories.html
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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As someone else asked, so russia and the Dems "colluded" to lose the election"???What is wrong with this man.
What is wrong with those who support this BS?
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:10 AM
 
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I think Trump leaked it himself. He tweeted before the story hit.
Trump leaked this.

Dowd wouldn't do it and ridiculous as Sekulow is, I doubt he would leak that letter after all these months.

Trump is tossing everything but the kitchen sink out there.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Trump leaked this.

Dowd wouldn't do it and ridiculous as Sekulow is, I doubt he would leak that letter after all these months.

Trump is tossing everything but the kitchen sink out there.
As we all see, tRump is scared spitless.

Maybe he's trying to arrange that Moscow summit with his boss Putin so that he can defect.

Might be his only way out.

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Old 06-03-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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If Trump believes the president has unfettered unopposable power, then he has to stop complaining about anything Obama did while he was president...Ever argument Trump makes conflicts with a different argument he makes.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:23 AM
 
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If Trump believes the president has unfettered unopposable power, then he has to stop complaining about anything Obama did while he was president...Ever argument Trump makes conflicts with a different argument he makes.
Obama did the same.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_in_2008.html
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