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Old 06-08-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Dude, "liberals" didn't outsource jobs--CAPITALISTS did. How many "liberals" are CEOs of coal and steel companies? Of automakers? Electronics companies?

The cost of doing business vs. profits equals success. It's capitalism 101.
Liberals did nothing to stop it when they had the majority of the House back in 2008. But, you are right, that it is the big elite companies that are run by greedy CEO's and have all of these politicians, judges and agencies in their back pockets to stay extremely wealthy and powerful at the expense of the little guy. So now, if they can't outsource jobs out of the country, then they pay politicians to create legislation to import cheap labor into the country, and to create expensive regulations so smaller businesses can't get started to create competition.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:36 AM
 
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Are these the same economists that predicted that Trump policies would be terrible for the economy?
Not necessarily -- and um just as a little side note.

These tariffs are the most significant economic policy this administration has introduced so this could be the EXACT 'terrible' policy making decisions they were talking about.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:21 AM
 
Location: NC
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globalism is part of socialism, the elimination of sovereignty.... the opposite of conservativism


I am not making this out to be a conspiracy.... I am pointing out that LACK of tariffs, makes for an uneven playing field.... and the liberals (and btw both democrats and republicans can be liberal..so when I say liberal, I mean globalist) chose global instead of hometeam


yes a capitalist would use this as an economic function ... but so does a socialist or communist as a political function
So you think that government should interfere with free markets? You think that Governments should set up artificial factors to control supply, demand, and prices, and you are also against socialism?

You say you are in favor of conservatism, but you want government to interfere with consumers getting the unrestricted choices so that some players can benefit? Hmmmmm

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Old 06-08-2018, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Liberals can't see the forest for the trees.

BMW sells a car here, we tax them 2%. If Chevy sells a car in Germany they tax them 10%. How is that fair?

The goal is to have balanced trade with little or no imbalance. Maybe there is some pain in the short term but the country benefits in the long run.
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Old 06-08-2018, 09:59 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Liberals can't see the forest for the trees.

BMW sells a car here, we tax them 2%. If Chevy sells a car in Germany they tax them 10%. How is that fair?

The goal is to have balanced trade with little or no imbalance. Maybe there is some pain in the short term but the country benefits in the long run.
It's amazing, isn't it?
Liberals are evidently experts on constitutional law, federal reserve system, foreign policy, foreign trade, personal relations, health care and many more items.
And somehow - imagine this - Trump and America are always wrong.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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So you think that government should interfere with free markets? You think that Governments should set up artificial factors to control supply, demand, and prices, and you are also against socialism?

You say you are in favor of conservatism, but you want government to interfere with consumers getting the unrestricted choices so that some players can benefit? Hmmmmm
There are no free markets in developed countries.
Never have been.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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Liberals can't see the forest for the trees.

BMW sells a car here, we tax them 2%. If Chevy sells a car in Germany they tax them 10%. How is that fair?

The goal is to have balanced trade with little or no imbalance. Maybe there is some pain in the short term but the country benefits in the long run.


But don't we also complain when wages in the foreign country are much lower? How does that fit in with no tax or same tax?
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Are these the same economists that predicted that Trump policies would be terrible for the economy?
Economic policies and changes do not affect the economy overnight, it takes years. We are riding Obama's good economy (save it, I didn't vote for him either), helped by Trump's corporate tax cuts and reduction in red tape and regulation.

It can still be ruined by tariffs and you wouldn't see that for a few years. Though you can see how the solar panels tariffs hurt that industry already.
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Old 06-08-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Liberals can't see the forest for the trees.

BMW sells a car here, we tax them 2%. If Chevy sells a car in Germany they tax them 10%. How is that fair?

The goal is to have balanced trade with little or no imbalance. Maybe there is some pain in the short term but the country benefits in the long run.
The U.S. tariff rate on German trucks is 25%. The EU tariff rate on U.S. trucks is 10%. How is that fair?

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American trucks rule in the USA. Nobody else comes close. That's because, to this day, anyone outside of the USA has to pay a 25% Chicken Tax to bring a truck over here.
American Trucks Rule Thanks to the Chicken Tax - The Drive
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Old 06-08-2018, 11:17 AM
 
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And they could not also.

Oh boy, lets speculate because we really can't tell the future.

Trump ran on his trade policy and was elected.
Trump won the right to do what he said he would do.
He will have to answer for the success or failure.
All those before Trump complained but did little to nothing.
One million jobs created since tax reform was passed.
As close to full employment as can be expected,
with more jobs than people to fill them.

Democrats plan. Raise taxes. Open borders and provide anyone and everyone in the world who can cross the border with H/C and safety net assistance. End prosperity !!! We don't deserve prosperity and need to take our place at the bottom of industrial nations. We need to become a nation that serves the world population and treat them better than the tax paying citizens.
Naw you are just making stuff up Phma, and if you are not please go ahead and link to the democratic party pledge to have "Open borders".

Lets not forget Obama deported record numbers of people, which proves you wrong .

I know it, you know it we all know it.


Trump did not run on a trade policy of trade wars with our allies, that is simply untrue. Thus he has no mandate to start a bunch of trade wars. see how easy it is to knock back your nonsense Phma,


And NOPE Trump has NOT created a Million jobs, you should look it up and learn how job creation works, that might help you understand better. It would take me too long to explain to you and there are excellent sites discussing this topic....
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