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Old 06-17-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Ever say to anyone that you wanted to kill someone? I am sure you have. Most everyone has.
No, this is only a liberal fantasy to kill people you don't like.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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I say - open a formal investigation on all of this - the IG report opens more questions than provides answers. Let's get to the truth and let the chips fall where they may. You don't destroy and lose evidence if it's only about a few agents voicing dismay at Trump.
There's only person responsible for not having a Special Counsel investigation --- Trump. Now it's too late.
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Old 06-17-2018, 01:16 PM
 
Location: United States
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Trey Gowdy just said in an interview that...

The investigators exonerated Hillary before even interviewing her, the same investigators believed Trump was guilty before conducting the investigation, that is textbook bias, and yes, it impacted the outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=2kr1OgxFt9M
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Old 06-17-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Trey Gowdy just said in an interview that...

The investigators exonerated Hillary before even interviewing her, the same investigators believed Trump was guilty before conducting the investigation, that is textbook bias, and yes, it impacted the outcome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=2kr1OgxFt9M
Is Trey Gowdy some kind of yoyo or what? He plays good cop bad cop sometimes in the same week.

Adam Schiff is the only person on the planet who has proof of Russian collusion but he seems to have left the evidence on Planet Neptune. Comey, the worst star witness on Planet Earth.

Trump's chances of exoneration here? Betty betty goot!
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why can't we just get rid of the bad actors without having to take sides? Strzok committed a felony. The IG report lists it.

Felony Prison. Now.
Ask the OP.
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:26 PM
 
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The reality is:

The FBI was informed of Russian meddling into the election and initiated an investigation.
That is absolutely not the reality. The FBI was not "informed" of any meddling. They heard second- or third-hand rumors and read stories written by someone hired by Trump's opponent with no indicia of veracity. That's not the same as being "informed" of anything.

Last edited by hbdwihdh378y9; 06-17-2018 at 02:39 PM..
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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I could say the same thing about congresspeople. The are just protecting themselves and congress.
Not to mention Trump protecting himself and his children and others
Catch him on video explaining that lying to the media and thus the American people about his role in the letter he constructed for Don Jr. and other campaign members/Russians at the Trump Tower meeting--is no crime
That lying to the media (and the public) is not the same as lying before some judges (who recognizes a Freudian slip when it comes out???)
And Guiliani protecting Trump
And the GOP protecting Trump
Ad infinitum...

Trump either is dumber than a rock in his understanding of the legal system or he thinks this really will be tried via tweets/public pronouncements/and gilding the lily on Fox...

What Trump actually did was admit to knowingly lying to coverup the truth of the Trump Tower meeting
To me that is proof of his state of mind which is required to prove consciousness of guilt/guilty actions in establishing a conspiracy to obstruct justice...
Unless those hidden messages on Michael Cohen's many phones might have something more pertinent and piercing the attorney-client priviledge---since committing a crime with your client's cooperation is not protected
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:31 PM
 
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That is absolutely not the reality. The FBI was not "informed" of any meddling. They heard second- or third-hand rumors and read stories written by Trump's opponent with no indicia of veracity. That's not the same as being "informed" of anything.
They WERE informed--
Steele told them
The Australian ambassador told them
Other nations' Intelligence sent them info
And they already knew Carter Page was likely compromised by his earlier Russian involvement
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:32 PM
 
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Hey- but when FBI agents leak bad stuff against Clinton its a good thing unlike when they leak bad stuff about a Trump- because that is criminal.
Trump's feelings about "leaking" sure have changed since 2016.
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Story out today about Stozik. GOP member Goodlatte planning on subpoena for him. Turns out Stozik is fine with going to any house or Senate committee to answer every question asked. Goodlatte never approached Stozik or his lawyer.

I will be interested in his appearance. He could turn out to be very bad for the GOP.
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