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Old 06-20-2018, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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There is no "easy way." One of the few ways to immigrate legally is to marry an American. And it's not easy to complete reams and reams of paperwork, pay $500-$1000 to submit it, wait, receive another huge packet of paperwork...rinse, repeat. Pay money. Pay more money. Obtain and submit your parents' birth certificates, obtain a sponsor (maybe your future spouse) who will pledge to support you for five years, undergo a background check--that you pay for in your country of origin. Send all of that in with more money. Wait and wait and wait. Undergo a somewhat frightening interview at the American embassy in your country--they seem to take smug pride in humiliating people and have been known to send them away to start all over again if their paperwork is not in consecutive order. It's expensive, time consuming, nerve wracking.

Legal immigration, no matter how it's done, is not "easy." It's the way it needs to be done though. NOT illegally. LEGALLY. But the legal system could be less beaurocratic--that would be nice.
We went through it with my wife. It was a decent amount of paperwork and, of course, money, but it's definitely the easiest way to become a citizen. Do you realize how difficult it is to get a visa to the US in most countries, let alone attempt to become a legal resident here? It usually comes down to personal connections, and how much you're able to bribe officials in your home country.
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Old 06-20-2018, 12:54 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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There is no "easy way." One of the few ways to immigrate legally is to marry an American. And it's not easy to complete reams and reams of paperwork, pay $500-$1000 to submit it, wait, receive another huge packet of paperwork...rinse, repeat. Pay money. Pay more money. Obtain and submit your parents' birth certificates, obtain a sponsor (maybe your future spouse) who will pledge to support you for five years, undergo a background check--that you pay for in your country of origin. Send all of that in with more money. Wait and wait and wait. Undergo a somewhat frightening interview at the American embassy in your country--they seem to take smug pride in humiliating people and have been known to send them away to start all over again if their paperwork is not in consecutive order. It's expensive, time consuming, nerve wracking.

Legal immigration, no matter how it's done, is not "easy."
It is a fairly straightforward process and usually takes less than a year to get a green card if you marry an American citizen. $1000 is hardly much money for someone who is trying to legally immigrate to another country.

It doesn't get much easier than that (and shouldn't).
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Old 06-20-2018, 05:25 AM
 
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"Has the immigration political debate made you feel resentment towards your ethnic group?


NO.
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Old 06-20-2018, 07:30 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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We went through it with my wife. It was a decent amount of paperwork and, of course, money, but it's definitely the easiest way to become a citizen. Do you realize how difficult it is to get a visa to the US in most countries, let alone attempt to become a legal resident here? It usually comes down to personal connections, and how much you're able to bribe officials in your home country.
Now you have links, court cases and verifiable testimony to back up that claim right?
Be cause I went through it with my wife also. The money wasn't that bad, the redundant paper work was. I also know others who have come here legally. No men ion of bribes from them. Then again they had good jobs at home, and weren't a risk.
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Old 06-20-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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People should come in legally. I'm not for illegal immigrants flooding the borders (I'm a democrat). But, I'm sure not for taking kids away from parents and putting them in "camps." Some may never be reunited w/ their families. This is barbaric. I wouldn't follow Trump down into his Moral mud, or anyone else, regardless of Party.
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Old 06-20-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Having kids doesn't and shouldn't keep people from being prosecuted for a crime.

"In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...-families-was/
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