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Old 07-04-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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You start off with some decent points and then off the cliff you go. You can not live in this world and not use what others pay for unless you want to go off into the wilderness which you can do now. No one is stopping you.
Japanese man on the island?

You came and got him last week. Why did you do that? Had an erection for a kidnapping?
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Come on guys, some consistency here.
Ted K. sent bombs to random people. That wasn't in defense of his property. Are you ok today?

That's why you and Teddy are two peas in a pod. You love killing babies in Yemen, Syria, Iraq, etc.

Offensive force...not defensive force.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Defensive force. Understand the difference?

Do defensive forces somehow mysteriously materialize with no $$$ to fund them?

If not, how in your little utopia with no taxes would they be funded?
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Well in America, he has the presumption of innocence but where does the Constitution guarantee him the right to be left alone? It only gives him the right to face his accuser and defend himself in a court of law. If that makes you feel oppressed, you have the right to leave.

Or, in your world, suppose your wife came home and said she was raped by a specific man, if he claimed innocence would you argue he should be left alone or would you demand he be tried?
The constitution?

Never signed it. It's under glass in D.C. Haven't even been in D.C. in nearly 20 years.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Well, when you have a comprehensive plan on how a society can function with no laws and/or enforcement of those laws just holler, my local library's real good about buying requested books.
https://mises.org/library/society-without-state
https://mises.org/library/law-without-state
https://mises.org/library/security-without-state
https://mises.org/library/old-age-se...-without-state

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/..._a_New_Liberty
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/81912.Human_Action
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1609224.The_Law


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2s8LfSlyU
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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cognitive dissonance and they are jealous of our consistency
Some of the worst vitriol comes from right-wingers.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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defense would be privatized. If there is a need the market provides.

And if everybody didn't want to pay, just HOW would those forces keep track of just whom to defend. Or, would it be a mandatory payment, a tax masquerading under a different name?
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Do defensive forces somehow mysteriously materialize with no $$$ to fund them?

If not, how in your little utopia with no taxes would they be funded?
Pay for services.

It's called consensual contracts. Something us big kids use in lieu of babies signing social contracts in wombs.

Good pic rebeldor...
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Your world would still require force.
Only in self-defense.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Some of the worst vitriol comes from right-wingers.
I'm kind of angry with you because of how much you've proven this point recently. Since they're in power now it's easy to just pick on the libs due to their TDS.

Forgot how unhinged the statist cons are though.
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