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Old 07-04-2018, 03:17 PM
 
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The details of why Cortez defeated Crowley.

IT’S NOT SOCIALISM, IT’S RACISM


Some cliff notes...

Crowley was gerrymandered into another district - and won with 70% of the vote the last time. So there was no real challenger, and team DNC put no money and time into Crowley this time around. However...

New York City’s working class white population is an endangered species. If you’re not on welfare or earning well in the six figures, you can’t afford to live there. Crowley’s district was 46% Hispanic. It had the second highest share of Latino voters in New York. The machine pol was living on borrowed time.

It’s hard to imagine a more vulnerable politician than doughy Joe, the echo of a 19th century political establishment of barstools and crony government jobs, used to winning ¾ of the vote in safe districts and who had forgotten how to compete in an election (if he ever knew how) facing a Hispanic district.




The media has portrayed it as a victory for socialism and how she is becoming Obama 2.0... which in a sense is true in that his experience didn't matter...

Her lesson isn’t that socialism works. The details of her politics were as incidental to the voters of the 14th as Obama’s policies were to his most dedicated base. It’s that racism works. Just ask a Democrat.

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her victory is no argument for socialism. It is evidence that the left can win an election if the turnout is really low and a Hispanic district is being represented by a boring white Democrat who lives in Virginia. Since the 14th is a minority district, Cortez will probably be able to hold on to it until she’s older than Maxine Waters.

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The unspeakable truth is that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn’t win because of her views but because the Democrats have created a political racial tribalism that is as bad as that of any third world country.


She will likely ride the wave of the media as long as exists. I'm sure some sexism will be thrown in for good measure as well.

And like the Waters district that I posted about earlier - I underlined the above... another Democrat district, another example of income inequality. You can't live there unless you are on welfare or earning a six digit income.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:21 PM
 
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Simple fact is she is just more representative of the district...which is the job.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:22 PM
 
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Did Cortez Win Because of Socialism... Or Racism


Yes.

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Old 07-04-2018, 03:24 PM
 
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Racism plus promising “free” stuff helped.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:30 PM
 
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Simple fact is she is just more representative of the district...which is the job.
No argument there - especially when the incumbent showed no effort in trying to win the district. I just think the socialism angle being played up was really a minor part of this.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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White people are not a species. Your the same species as blacks and browns. All races are just an environmental adaption.
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:57 PM
 
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Yet she can't defend how she's planning to fund her own Socialist policies that she advocates for. "Housing as a right", "Medicaid for all". It all sounds good under the service until you realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch... People can't correlate government funded services as diminishing quality. There's a difference between a public good and commodity. A public good is consumed by society as a whole, and not by an individual consumer. I'm not really surprised that people can't make that distinction happen to be in a major city. Cities, especially NYC, support many irrational and self-destructive policies because they produce individuals who are delusional about how the world works. Cities offer an atmosphere where if people ask for something, they will simply get it.
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Old 07-04-2018, 04:03 PM
 
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HA! Another thread with the word racist/racism in it. I'm getting another dollar!!
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Old 07-04-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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Yet she can't defend how she's planning to fund her own Socialist policies that she advocates for. "Housing as a right", "Medicaid for all". It all sounds good under the service until you realize that there is no such thing as a free lunch... People can't correlate government funded services as diminishing quality. There's a difference between a public good and commodity. A public good is consumed by society as a whole, and not by an individual consumer. I'm not really surprised that people can't make that distinction happen to be in a major city. Cities, especially NYC, support many irrational and self-destructive policies because they produce individuals who are delusional about how the world works. Cities offer an atmosphere where if people ask for something, they will simply get it.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.”
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Old 07-04-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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She really has you guys running scared. GOOD.
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