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Old 07-04-2018, 08:24 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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The details of why Cortez defeated Crowley.

IT’S NOT SOCIALISM, IT’S RACISM


Some cliff notes...

Crowley was gerrymandered into another district - and won with 70% of the vote the last time. So there was no real challenger, and team DNC put no money and time into Crowley this time around. However...

New York City’s working class white population is an endangered species. If you’re not on welfare or earning well in the six figures, you can’t afford to live there. Crowley’s district was 46% Hispanic. It had the second highest share of Latino voters in New York. The machine pol was living on borrowed time.

It’s hard to imagine a more vulnerable politician than doughy Joe, the echo of a 19th century political establishment of barstools and crony government jobs, used to winning ¾ of the vote in safe districts and who had forgotten how to compete in an election (if he ever knew how) facing a Hispanic district.




The media has portrayed it as a victory for socialism and how she is becoming Obama 2.0... which in a sense is true in that his experience didn't matter...

Her lesson isn’t that socialism works. The details of her politics were as incidental to the voters of the 14th as Obama’s policies were to his most dedicated base. It’s that racism works. Just ask a Democrat.

...
her victory is no argument for socialism. It is evidence that the left can win an election if the turnout is really low and a Hispanic district is being represented by a boring white Democrat who lives in Virginia. Since the 14th is a minority district, Cortez will probably be able to hold on to it until she’s older than Maxine Waters.

...
The unspeakable truth is that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn’t win because of her views but because the Democrats have created a political racial tribalism that is as bad as that of any third world country.


She will likely ride the wave of the media as long as exists. I'm sure some sexism will be thrown in for good measure as well.

And like the Waters district that I posted about earlier - I underlined the above... another Democrat district, another example of income inequality. You can't live there unless you are on welfare or earning a six digit income.



well alrighty now.....
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:24 PM
 
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Keep,repeating the lie.
What's the lie?
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
The details of why Cortez defeated Crowley.

IT’S NOT SOCIALISM, IT’S RACISM


Some cliff notes...

Crowley was gerrymandered into another district - and won with 70% of the vote the last time. So there was no real challenger, and team DNC put no money and time into Crowley this time around. However...

New York City’s working class white population is an endangered species. If you’re not on welfare or earning well in the six figures, you can’t afford to live there. Crowley’s district was 46% Hispanic. It had the second highest share of Latino voters in New York. The machine pol was living on borrowed time.

It’s hard to imagine a more vulnerable politician than doughy Joe, the echo of a 19th century political establishment of barstools and crony government jobs, used to winning ¾ of the vote in safe districts and who had forgotten how to compete in an election (if he ever knew how) facing a Hispanic district.




The media has portrayed it as a victory for socialism and how she is becoming Obama 2.0... which in a sense is true in that his experience didn't matter...

Her lesson isn’t that socialism works. The details of her politics were as incidental to the voters of the 14th as Obama’s policies were to his most dedicated base. It’s that racism works. Just ask a Democrat.

...
her victory is no argument for socialism. It is evidence that the left can win an election if the turnout is really low and a Hispanic district is being represented by a boring white Democrat who lives in Virginia. Since the 14th is a minority district, Cortez will probably be able to hold on to it until she’s older than Maxine Waters.

...
The unspeakable truth is that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez didn’t win because of her views but because the Democrats have created a political racial tribalism that is as bad as that of any third world country.


She will likely ride the wave of the media as long as exists. I'm sure some sexism will be thrown in for good measure as well.

And like the Waters district that I posted about earlier - I underlined the above... another Democrat district, another example of income inequality. You can't live there unless you are on welfare or earning a six digit income.





Communists, are more collectively organized than the fascist.
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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HA! Another thread with the word racist/racism in it. I'm getting another dollar!!
Start betting 5 and 10-dollar bills instead. You'll be rich as Croesus by the time midterms are over.
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Old 07-04-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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So someone in New York can make it by being on welfare but not middle class?

This makes absolutely no sense and you posted it twice.
Yeah it doesn’t make much sense but that’s how it is in liberal cities like NYC and L.A

The poor get subsidies for housing , food , healthcare , cell phone etc . The middle class don’t .
Same thing in L.A the middle class has pretty much disappeared. Employers are having trouble recruiting for senior level positions because of high housing costs .


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Old 07-04-2018, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yeah it doesn’t make much sense but that’s how it is in liberal cities like NYC and L.A
The poor get subsidies for housing , food , healthcare , cell phone etc . The middle class don’t .
Same thing in L.A the middle class has pretty much disappeared. Employers are having trouble recruiting for senior level positions because of high housing costs .
Come on jm...only about 20% of the poor get any housing subsidy, food stamp benefits average $126 per person. The free cellphone's have almost no data allowance and you can get the same service through a company like Ting for around $15-$18 a month.

The middle class is moving out because they can't afford rent, and the poor are becoming homeless because they can't afford to move. Our major cities are now like little fiefdoms for the rich and famous.
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Come on jm...only about 20% of the poor get any housing subsidy, food stamp benefits average $126 per person. The free cellphone's have almost no data allowance and you can get the same service through a company like Ting for around $15-$18 a month.

The middle class is moving out because they can't afford rent, and the poor are becoming homeless because they can't afford to move. Our major cities are now like little fiefdoms for the rich and famous.
All the poor in L.A and NYC are homeless?...right ...
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Crowley was gerrymandered into another district - and won with 70% of the vote the last time.
Not really, Crowley represented essentially the same gepgraphic area in both elections:

New 14th District that Crowley lost - Cortez won:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...?1530760124634

Crowley's 7th District in 2012:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...?1530760067844
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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All the poor in L.A and NYC are homeless?...right ...
Where did I say that jm?
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Old 07-04-2018, 09:26 PM
 
Location: in a pond with the other human scum
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Cities, especially NYC, support many irrational and self-destructive policies because they produce individuals who are delusional about how the world works. Cities offer an atmosphere where if people ask for something, they will simply get it.
[irony]That’s why it’s such a hellhole that nobody wants to live there, and are deserting it in droves in order to move to Nebraska and Mississippi.[/irony]
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