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Why would you want to get rid of Immigration and Customs Enforcement? What would you replace it with?
some type of agency that doesn't wrest children from their parents' arms and completely and utterly fail to keep track so that those children could eventually be reunited with their parents.
There's a long list of possibilities who haven't lost track of thousands of children in the past couple of months.
some type of agency that doesn't wrest children from their parents' arms and completely and utterly fail to keep track so that those children could eventually be reunited with their parents.
There's a long list of possibilities who haven't lost track of thousands of children in the past couple of months.
But you do realize that when anyone is arrested they would be separated from children because we don't throw kids in jail, that's inhumane. The problem is the kids and parents are undocumented, since their cruel parents dragged them thousands of miles from home, they don't have the family or friends network that a US resident has. Even then, some US residents don't have that, their kids get placed in halfway homes, foster parents, etc.
Sounds like you want a shortsighted fix for a long term problem.
But you do realize that when anyone is arrested they would be separated from children because we don't throw kids in jail, that's inhumane. The problem is the kids and parents are undocumented, since their cruel parents dragged them thousands of miles from home, they don't have the family or friends network that a US resident has. Even then, some US residents don't have that, their kids get placed in halfway homes, foster parents, etc.
Sounds like you want a shortsighted fix for a long term problem.
And exactly how many people who commit a misdemeanor are immediately thrown into jail? Because that's the crime in question here. I know the right thinks they came up with this great argument to supposedly prove that this isn't an obscenely awful and inhumane way to treat people but it's wrong.
You think the people committing all of these activities are immediately taken into custody and their children taken away from them and put into kiddie jail?
Leave your door open?
You know what, that's not a bad idea. It's well known that their families often pool their resources, (wages earned) to supply the roof over their heads, food on their table and clothes on their backs.
Could be most useful, in allowing them to move in ...
Researchers found that immigrants who are only eligible for legal status, but not citizenship, would contribute about $832 billion to the economy in a ten year period, add 121,000 more jobs per year, and pay $109 billion in taxes over a ten-year period. Compare that to a scenario where undocumented immigrants are granted legal status and citizenship at the same time, the U.S. GDP would grow by $1.4 trillion over a ten year period, immigrants would help to create an additional 203,0000 jobs per year, and add $184 billion in tax revenue. In another scenario where undocumented immigrants are granted legal status and citizenship after five years, the GDP would grow by $1.1 trillion, there would be an additional 159,000 jobs per year, and add $144 billion in tax revenue.
You know one day people are going to wake up and wonder why it was they were thinking the way they were ... that may come when they too, need an open door.
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But you do realize that when anyone is arrested they would be separated from children because we don't throw kids in jail, that's inhumane. The problem is the kids and parents are undocumented, since their cruel parents dragged them thousands of miles from home, they don't have the family or friends network that a US resident has. Even then, some US residents don't have that, their kids get placed in halfway homes, foster parents, etc.
Sounds like you want a shortsighted fix for a long term problem.
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their cruel parents dragged them
Easy to say by people sit 'en in their nice cozy homes, driving their nice cars, eating their tasty foods.
What comes around goes around. Mark my words, the day will come where the u.s will be a different metoo movement.
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I don’t leave the door open, the dogs would get out, but our doors are unlocked. We don’t huddle in our home afraid of the “other”. We also believe in practicing what we preach and have opened our home and wallets to immigrants before. Try it, you might learn something. Besides, loving thy neighbor doesn’t mean just the people next door.
People don't even know who it is that lives next door.
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This is what ICE does: ICE’S mission is to protect America from the cross-border crime and illegal immigration that threaten national security and public safety.
Gillibrand, June 28: I believe that it has become a deportation force. And I think you should separate out the criminal justice from the immigration issues. I think you should reimagine ICE under a new agency, with a very different mission, and take those two missions out. And so we believe that we should protect families that need our help, and that is not what ICE is doing today. And that’s why I believe you should get rid of it, start over, reimagine it and build something that actually works. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/28/polit...ntv/index.html
Seriously? Separate the criminal justice from the immigration issues? What does that even mean? REIMAGINE ICE> LMAO
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