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Old 05-05-2022, 10:32 AM
 
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Most definitions (in the several dictionaries I checked) say that the parasite is a different species than the host or that it harms the host. No definition specifically includes embryo or fetus, and considering how negative the term parasite is, I'd say it shouldn't be used in the abortion debate. It is inflammatory and just takes people down an irrelevant bunny trail.
There are many negative terms that are inflammatory but don’t stop being used. Murder, baby killers, abortion lover. Calling women sluts, telling them to keep their legs closed. The list is long.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:41 AM
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We have common sense abortion control in the form of birth control pills, IUDs, shots, implants, condoms, etc. People choosing not to use them is the issue.
Really seems to be the same problem with inoculations and vaccines, users keep saying that they don't always work and have the potential for negative side affects. Guess what neither do the preventative methods you listed many of which also have additional health hazards.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Really seems to be the same problem with inoculations and vaccines, users keep saying that they don't always work and have the potential for negative side affects. Guess what neither do the preventative methods you listed many of which also have additional health hazards.
They rhythm method, condoms as well as withdrawal are good options for those who do not want anything put inside of their body. Much better than using nothing.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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They rhythm method, condoms as well as withdrawal are good options for those who do not want anything put inside of their body. Much better than using nothing.
It doesn't work. The chances of pregnancy are the same as doing nothing.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:55 AM
 
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Oh just stop with this nonsense. The fetus is not a parasite. It’s the same species as the mother. The relationship that a fetus and the mother have is mutually beneficial.
I have given links to show that medically and scientifically, yes it is a parasite. You may want to deny that truth because of the connotation, but it IS the truth.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Please explain then, WHY and HOW a person can be charged with 2 counts of murder for killing a pregnant woman?


The amount of time she has been pregnant is not a factor in this either, even if she just found out, 2 murder counts are STILL imposed....can you explain?


( a murder charge cannot be imposed unless it is a real human life)


In the legal sense, a fetus is one or the other, it cannot be both.
I don't know this to be true.
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Old 05-05-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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It doesn't work. The chances of pregnancy are the same as doing nothing.
100% False. The rhythm method is 76-88% effective with typical use. Withdrawal is 78% effective with typical use and condoms are 85% effective with typical use. Using more than one method at a time is extremely effective but even just sticking with one is far more effective than doing nothing.
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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I have given links to show that medically and scientifically, yes it is a parasite. You may want to deny that truth because of the connotation, but it IS the truth.
A parasite is a different species from it’s host. A parasite takes but doesn’t give. A fetus and it’s mother have a mutually beneficial relationship. You’re incorrect.
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:03 AM
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They rhythm method, condoms as well as withdrawal are good options for those who do not want anything put inside of their body. Much better than using nothing.
I believe the Catholics used to favor those methods and we know how that worked...

But feel free to try whatever you like.
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Old 05-05-2022, 11:04 AM
 
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I believe the Catholics used to favor those methods and we know how that worked...

But feel free to try whatever you like.
We have the numbers on how they work. I just shared them. I got them off of the Planned Parenthood website.
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