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View Poll Results: Would Trump lashing out at Putin have helped solve our problems with Russia, or would it have made t
It would have helped resolve them 32 37.21%
It would have made them worse 54 62.79%
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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And Trump moaned and placated like a submissive little b*itch while Putin gave it to him.
Stupid.

He told the truth, something propagandist can’t allow.

People like you are the problem.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Asia
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And his supporters say Obama was corrupt
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Well, Trump IS causing the downward spiral here in the US. He's spewing his treason right in front of our dam* faces. It doesn't get worse than this. I wouldn't be worried about our "relationship" with Russia at this point!
What in the world are you talking about?

The US economy is buzzing along nicely, after you guys said Trump was going to kill the economy.

Trump got our NATO allies to take more responsibility for their own defense. Even Lefty-Prog NYT agrees, although The Times was not able to bring itself to say that Trump got what 0bama could not get. NY Times: 'Trump Got From NATO Everything Obama Ever Asked For'

Anti- and Never-Trumpers claimed that Trump would have us at war if elected POTUS, yet, now that Trump is seeking to cool hotspots and put out fires, the Anti- and Never-Trumpers scream "treason"!

Where exactly is this downward spiral and corruption?

Any concrete, specific examples?
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:52 AM
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Stupid.

He told the truth, something propagandist can’t allow.

People like you are the problem.
Sure he did.

Keep telling yourself that.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:53 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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................trump should be tried for Treason!
The only problem with that is, Congress has not declared war on the people you just dislike.
You may think they are our enemy, but until Congress declares war, they are just someone you may not like.
The sitting President cannot violate the Hatch Act.... but a former President sure can.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:58 AM
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This is a fairly accurate illustration.
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Trump says US is entirely to blame for bad relations with Russia. Russia agrees.-trump.png  
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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I'm having trouble understanding how Trump's supporters don't understand that he threw America under the bus!
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It's not at all hard to understand.

Until Fox News and hate radio turns strongly against tRump, they're gonna stick like glue.

He's their "savior of white christianity."

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Right-wing authoritarians want society and social interactions structured in ways that increase uniformity and minimize diversity. In order to achieve that, they tend to be in favour of social control, coercion, and the use of group authority to place constraints on the behaviours of people such as political dissidents and ethnic minorities. These constraints might include restrictions on immigration, limits on free speech and association and laws regulating moral behaviour. It is the willingness to support or take action that leads to increased social uniformity that makes right-wing authoritarianism more than just a personal distaste for difference. Right-wing authoritarianism is characterized by obedience to authority, moral absolutism, racial and ethnic prejudice, and intolerance and punitiveness towards dissidents and deviants.


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Exactly .... If you believe the Human mind can be easily brainwashed.. Trump supporters are exhibit A.... Trump being elected president showed me how common telephone scam artist thrives in country like America. Trump is nothing more than your common everyday Used Car Salesman, Snake Oil Salesman, Con-Artist, Grifter. He has shown that yes even a Used Car Salesman can become POTUS if you can brainwash the people enough, Trump University, anyone.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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This is a reasonable point.

The US constantly meddles in other countries' elections.
Look no further than Ukraine in 2014, where the United States was glaringly and blatantly meddling in the Euromaidan protests to get Yanukovych overthrown. Our secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs, plus our vice-President, were on the ground in Ukraine, funding, feeding (Nuland was literally handing out cookies to protestors) and fueling that whole thing. Hell, our government hand picked the replacement for Yanukovych, and engineered Yatsenyuk's two other competitors out of the way. We helped oust a duly elected leader and replaced him with a hand picked US puppet. And we did this on the Putin's doorstep, in a non-NATO, non-EU nation.

Oh no, Trump is 100% dead solid accurate on the US bearing blame on strained US-Russia relations. Between the neo-con cabal led by Kristol and mouthpieced by McCain, and the dumbassery of Obama and Dubyah in particular...Trump is speaking truth to freaking power. That may upset some delicate US sensibilities, but it's true regardless.

We've meddled in so many elections that it's utterly laughable for the US to gripe even if every single allegation and conspiracy theory about Russia in 2016 is 100% truth. Seriously, has any Central or South American country had an election in the last 50 years that we didn't heavily interfere with?
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Sure he did.

Keep telling yourself that.
I don’t like Trump. But pointing out US thuggery is to blame for the current US-Russia relationship is the truth. The facts are there but your media will never tell you.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:11 AM
 
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This is a fairly accurate illustration.
Sadly, that is accurate. I watched Sean Hannity's interview with Trump this morning... beyond embarrassing. You could tell that Trump genuinely believed Putin's denial of meddling at face value. I couldn't believe it...
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:13 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Exactly .... If you believe the Human mind can be easily brainwashed about politics. Trump supporters are exhibit A....
If you believe the Human mind can be easily brainwashed.. A Governmental Controlled Marxist Based Public Education is exhibit A.... Communist led Colleges and Universities are exhibit B.
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