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Israel does a lot of things wrong. They make constant strategic mistakes and were for most of their existence a mismanaged socialist basket-case (being a reasonably well run country is a recent thing for them). The accusation comes from you complaining about "joos" and is now confirmed with "goyim" and "oy vey" to the list in the context quoted. Almost everyone who I have met with a thing against Jews (and/or Asians, and black people who dislike whites for good measure, it seems to be the same psychology behind all of it) have broadly been people who personally failed, either in general or relative to their own expectations, and deflect that blame at people and groups who have succeeded where they have failed (in their belief, unjustly), so it's a legitimate question.
You guys just hate it when white non-Jews see through your bull crap and tell it the way it is. The Goyim are onto you buddy. (If you don't like the word "goyim" them maybe you're people shouldn't have invented it to describe all of us inferior non-jews.)
Carpet bombing the Taliban, the only damage they have done is to their own country.
Iran spouting anti-American rhetoric is no reason for anything, their support of terrorism is another story which we have addressed. I'm not ready to declare war because they chant death to the Americans.
Pulling out of the ME is really not an option, we are in too deeply with Israel, Syria, Egypt and SA.
Was referring to harboring Bin Laden before 9/11 for the Taliban. We have to respond to to that sort of thing but in the future should just hit back a lot harder than we were hit rather than doing hugely expensive occupations of other nations. Same deterrent effect, much more efficient.
For Iran you're right that anti-American rhetoric alone is no reason alone to do anything to them. Nor is developing weaponry that could hit us. The combination of the two is a problem. To be fair to them, we've provoked them. Hence what I think is the correct policy toward them - stop provoking them, walk away, give them a few years to chill out toward us as well, and if they aren't openly anti-American anymore or if they aren't trying to develop weapons to eventually act on it anymore then great. If not an ounce of prevention versus a pound of cure.
We're not in too deeply with Israel, Syria, Egypt and SA. We've always been able to walk away from the first three without too many repercussions and now that we're pumping most of our own oil we don't need SA anymore either.
A deal isn't possible at the moment, in my view. Realistically for one to happen you need both sides to give up something major: the Palestinians needs to come to terms with Israel once and for all and forswear attempting to destroy it either through violence or attempts at pressuring for a "right of return." The only thing they have to give is peace and they seem unwilling to give up fantasies of wiping Israel off the map to put that on the table. The Israelis, meanwhile, need to be willing to give up the settlements. The Palestinians need a coherent state, not geographically riddled with foreign territory. If they are to put down their guns and grudges they need something viable to pick up.
Historically I don't think the Palestinians have ever been willing to do what they need to to make a peace deal happen, and the Israelis haven't been since their uprooting the Gaza settlements was met with Hamas and mortar fire. So the peacemaking attempts are just a waste of our time.
The USA can’t solve the “Israel Issue” — only the Arab Nations can solve it. If nothing else, 60 years have taught us that. That is the Kushner plan. A big problem for all of them is losing the advantages of the “Mid-East Crisis”. The Arab world used Israel to distract their populations from their own misery and The Palestinians are totally dependent on world funding for their very existence.
Lots of stuff going on in the background since Trump was elected, none of it may work but at least it’s not the same old failed policy.
Gaza is more so an open air concentration camp than it is a sovereign nation, yet Israel is shocked when some of them get feisty enough to shoot at the IDF losers who menacingly walk around the border making sure the human cattle stay in their pen. Joos this your fault and you all know it.
Gaza is kept under "lockdown" because the Muslim terrorists there are always using it as a base to attack Israel. The Israeli withdraw from Gaza has only been rewarded by more Islamic terrorism from Gaza. The Arabs and Muslims refuse to make peace with Israel. The entire conflict was due to the Arabs and Muslims refusal to accept Israel during the 1948 partition. The ENTIRE land rightfully belongs to the Jews based on Biblical history (Jews lived there before Muhammad founded Islam and wrote the Koran) yet the Jews were willing to split half of it to the Muslims. Yet the Muslims wanted ALL the land and launched the various wars which they lost!
Muslims only understand the culture of war and violence. Any goodwill move is seen as weakness in the Muslim cultures.
Gaza is kept under "lockdown" because the Muslim terrorists there are always using it as a base to attack Israel. The Israeli withdraw from Gaza has only been rewarded by more Islamic terrorism from Gaza. The Arabs and Muslims refuse to make peace with Israel. The entire conflict was due to the Arabs and Muslims refusal to accept Israel during the 1948 partition. The ENTIRE land rightfully belongs to the Jews based on Biblical history (Jews lived there before Muhammad founded Islam and wrote the Koran) yet the Jews were willing to split half of it to the Muslims. Yet the Muslims wanted ALL the land and launched the various wars which they lost!
Muslims only understand the culture of war and violence. Any goodwill move is seen as weakness in the Muslim cultures.
Not the Ashkenazi Jews. They came from modern day Ukraine and migrated into eastern Europe over the centuries. They have no claim to modern day Palestine, Biblical or otherwise. This is another big lie everybody believes.
Either way, good job Israel! Here's your cookie and your congratulations for bombing more people. Please continue to set this great example for the rest of the world. (I guess that was the reason for creating this lame thread in the first place? For everybody to say "bravo Israel?")
Israel's motto ought to be "F*ck Around and Find Out", because every single time the idiotic Palestinians f*ck around, they find out. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Brain dead Arabs proving once again they are brain dead.
Like the brain dead Indiginous in America? What should they do when their land is being taken and the agreements aren't worth the paper they are written on? Roll over?
I would say that calling in the air force to bomb several locations but this is the usual over reaction, calling in air support because of a sniper attack, seriously.
Exactly! My only question is why they weren't bombed before the sniper shot their soldier. Seems like they knew pretty well what's out there and did nothing.
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