La TImes says 2016 election was not legitimate (illegal, statistics, dollar)

[dashrendar4454]

Was the 2016 election legitimate? It's now definitely worth asking the question




So. Is it fair to say leftists believe Hillary only lost the election because of Russia. How do you think this will affect the candidate they choose in 2020 and what they run on ?

[texan2yankee]

the author wrote an Op Ed for the LAtimes challenging the election. a NYC, upper middle class author who has made attacking trump a major part of her recent writing career. she is free to publish her opinion, as dumb as it is.

[AnesthesiaMD]

That’s funny. I say the LA Times is not legitimate.

[craigiri]

Oh, the election was not legit- but, then again, either was GWB in 2000.

I'm using statistics, reason, common sense and experience to say that.

Looking at charts and events, you can say with some confidence that the combination of:

Outright lies - often propped up and spread by Russian Money.
Comey Timing

Threw the election to Trump by a tiny margin (in many states).......

Now, we can differ about which particular lies, which particular Russian paid-for ads and - even then - mostly Comey (I say without Comey in the last 10 days Trump would have lost)....

But it's water over the dam. We are not a fair country with fair election. Didn't you know that when Jeb Bush and Katerine Harris and then the SCOTUS fixed the election in 2000.....

This should trouble anyone who believes in our system.

As to who and what the Dems will run later, that's past my pay grade. But saying the odds favor that the 2016 Election was manipulated by foreign actors and other events....that I can speak of.

[T-310]

The LA Times still exists?

[middle-aged mom]

I don’t track people without an ID.

You can’t open a bank account without an ID.

You can’t cash a check without an ID.

You can’t legally drive without an ID.

You cannot be legally employed without an ID.

Hospitals and medical practices require patients to show an ID.

I appreciate there are very old people who may have been born in rural areas back when birth certificates were less common. How do they receive Social Serurity and Medicare benefits?

[dashrendar4454]

Originally Posted by craigiri

Oh, the election was not legit- but, then again, either was GWB in 2000.

I'm using statistics, reason, common sense and experience to say that.

Looking at charts and events, you can say with some confidence that the combination of:

Outright lies - often propped up and spread by Russian Money.
Comey Timing

Threw the election to Trump by a tiny margin (in many states).......

Now, we can differ about which particular lies, which particular Russian paid-for ads and - even then - mostly Comey (I say without Comey in the last 10 days Trump would have lost)....

But it's water over the dam. We are not a fair country with fair election. Didn't you know that when Jeb Bush and Katerine Harris and then the SCOTUS fixed the election in 2000.....

This should trouble anyone who believes in our system.

As to who and what the Dems will run later, that's past my pay grade. But saying the odds favor that the 2016 Election was manipulated by foreign actors and other events....that I can speak of.

Why didn’t Hillary’s billion dollar campaign and surrogates fight against these Facebook ads?



Weren’t they using Facebook themselves?

[nononsenseguy]

No, it wasn't the L.A. Times that said it. It was this silly liberal political hack, Virginia Heffernan.

But this is a duplicate thread.

[rebeldor]

No election is legitimate.

If voting made a difference it'd be illegal.

[middle-aged mom]

If “ I did not vote” had been a candidate in 2016, it would have won by a landslide.