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Old 07-26-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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I didn't know Putin and the Russians campaigned in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida, Iowa (states that Obama won in 2008 & 2012).......Trump barely lost in Minnesota by only 1.5%, a SUPER DEMOCRAT State.




it couldn't be Obamacare that raised the healthcare premiums and costs to the Middle Class and small businesses over 65%.


it couldn't be the bad trade deals that have hurt the middle class and wages that the Democrats support and want to expand with TPP.


it coudn't be the open borders, sanctuary cities and illegal immigration that the Democrat party puts above the ordinary American citizen.


it couldn't be the identity politics of the democrat party which threw under the bus the white working class in the midwest states that the democrat party has taken for granted for years.




NAH!!! It had to be Putin.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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Without the WaPo there wouldn't be as much #fakenews being spread around
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I still cannot believe people pay money to read that thing.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:40 AM
 
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Without Hillary, Trump would not have won.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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Without Hillary, Trump would not have won.



Trump won because of 8 years Obama didn't do cr@p for the middle class and turned out to be a wall street globalist protector with a tan.


Trump won in the midwest....(he didn't need Florida) and he knew what to run on........Biden would have lost to Trump also.
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Houston
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“20 top-performing false election stories from hoax sites and hyperpartisan blogs generated 8,711,000 shares, reactions, and comments on Facebook.”

"Tens of thousands of Russian bots spread pro-Trump messages on Twitter."

"Almost all of this “fake news” was either started or spread by Russian bots, including claims that the pope had endorsed Trump and that Hillary Clinton had sold weapons to the Islamic State."

"Russia also hacked voting systems in at least 39 states,"

"The Senate Intelligence Committee found that “in a small number of states” the Russians may have been able to “alter or delete voter registration data,” potentially disenfranchising Clinton voters." (Since they hacked the DNC voter analytics, they knew exactly who the these voters were.)

WikiLeaks strategically disseminated the Russian hacked Democratic documents to create the impression of misdeeds by the DNC and Clinton.

Despite the fact that there was nothing in the Russian-hacked emails beyond ordinary communication and coordination, Trump carried on like they were the Pentagon Papers.

Trump said “I love WikiLeaks” and mentioned its revelations constantly.

“This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable."

“Boy, that WikiLeaks has done a job on her, hasn’t it?”

...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.816a429d06d4

Despite the constant denials from Trump and Trump supporters than none of this had any impact on the election, to this day many are still repeating the lies that the Russian social media campaign created and spread.

We can see it on this forum. Posts about how they voted for Trump because they didn't trust Clinton.

Think on that for a moment.

They proudly admit voting for a con man who lied and cheated his entire and who was supported by a campaign of Russian-told lies.

Because they didn't trust Clinton.

There are legitimate reasons not to trust Clinton.
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:27 AM
 
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while I don't believe this for one second, I have to say that in the end, the prospect of Hillary Clinton as president makes me sick.


wherever the divine wind that blew her off the national stage came from, I am happy for it.
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Another Red Scare? What is this, the 1950s?
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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if you are actually interested in why Donald Trump won, watch Michael Moore. I don't agree with his politics, but he nailed why Trump won. He acutally said this before the election.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc
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Old 07-26-2018, 11:46 AM
 
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more on why Trump won.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL67D9hoUdk


go to the 9:50 minute mark of this video. Jack Tapper says the following "Donald Trump is out polling every other Republican in these areas for the last 16 years.


Trump got votes from people that voted for Obama twice and democrats going back to Clinton. They voted for democrats until they realized the democrats abandoned them. period.


THAT is why Trump won. It has nothing to do with Russia.
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