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If you have any benefits at all remember this phrase that was told to workers 100 years ago "if you don't come in Sunday, don't come in Monday". When the unions are destroyed you will hear that again, and you won't be paid for the sixth or seventh day either.
Where do you think that you've acquired the wisdom to call unions relics, Fox News? Why don't you look at your sources a bit more closely.
Sheesh ! as many have already told you PUBLIC UNIONS not private.... I've been in AFSCME, they are a bunch of blood suckers! Doesn't it seem strange that of the 10 largest unions in this Country 1,3,and 6 are Public sector? No wonder people are crying....
Earlier this Summer when the Supreme Court found in favor of Mark Janus over AFSCME, the Trump Administration sent Noel Francisco the Solicitor General to argue against the unions. The unions lost the fight to collect agency fees from people who received union benefits without public union memberships.
There is another wrinkle. A Trump administration's appointee Jonathan Mitchell is now suing in several states for the agency fees to be paid back to those not interested in joining the unions. NY Times article follows: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/b...es-lawyer.html
An attorney working for the unions said that the unions should be very nervous about this action.
The unions in our country are being systematically destroyed and we are not bright enough to do anything about it. So, it's the weekend. Go get your 12 pack and vegetate in front of the idiot box like you've been doing for years.
unions do more damage and conscript pay to feed the union leaders ensuring their healthcare insurance while taking it away form the members. Case in point iron workers union in central NJ. Horror stories of union impact on production. Laws enacted, prompted by union efforts form another century have replaced unions. Trade unions fine where apprenticeships are part of the skill set continuity. State, federal and municipal unions have to go.
"Mar 01, 2015 · But the more than 8,000 casual workers compete daily for hours of dock work, hoping to snag leftover shifts after union members get first pick. Many toil for years in a part-time holding pattern, waiting for a new round of hiring."
Hoffa jr introing Obama tells his members to 'take out those sobs'. A dog whistle for violent action against political opposition.
You do realize this is policy or law has to do with public service unions and not all unions don't you? As for what an attorney working for the unions has to say, I doubt many of us really care. There are good lawyers and bad ones, some a greedy which could very well be the case with this one. Who knows and who really cares. Oh and lets really get excited about what the NYTimes has to say?
Of course I realize this. I've been following the threat since it first materialized. As far as you caring is concerned, why respond if you don't care? There are a thousand other threads to choose from.
What you don't like is that I read newspapers and books and form opinions that don't jive with the Republican line.
unions do more damage and conscript pay to feed the union leaders ensuring their healthcare insurance while taking it away form the members. Case in point iron workers union in central NJ. Horror stories of union impact on production. Laws enacted, prompted by union efforts form another century have replaced unions. Trade unions fine where apprenticeships are part of the skill set continuity. State, federal and municipal unions have to go.
"Mar 01, 2015 · But the more than 8,000 casual workers compete daily for hours of dock work, hoping to snag leftover shifts after union members get first pick. Many toil for years in a part-time holding pattern, waiting for a new round of hiring."
Hoffa jr introing Obama tells his members to 'take out those sobs'. A dog whistle for violent action against political opposition.
teacher unions must go away!!!
From 1950 to 1980 New York City had a building boom like we may never see again. It was all done with union labor. I was proud to be part of it.
Sheesh ! as many have already told you PUBLIC UNIONS not private.... I've been in AFSCME, they are a bunch of blood suckers! Doesn't it seem strange that of the 10 largest unions in this Country 1,3,and 6 are Public sector? No wonder people are crying....
From 1950 to 1980 New York City had a building boom like we may never see again. It was all done with union labor. I was proud to be part of it.
Not public sector unions...Steel workers,electricians construction trades are not typically public unions ( although I do know some public employees protected by the IBEW)
and how you are choosing to understand what he is saying is very biased. So maybe it works on both sides. I have to say, unions served a purpose in our country 100 years ago, they no longer do and the higher ups are the ones that make all the money, taking from the little guy that can't understand what is going on. They just go along, believing what the union leaders are selling them.
Oh and as for anyone who thinks there should be no min wage, well what about those who think some of these union workers should be paid amounts almost equal to doctors is some cases. $50 an hour or more, with little or no overhead and probably no education to speak of? Of course some love their unions, why wouldn't they?
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Originally Posted by ikoolu
i have no love for unions - sheet metal workers in LA get $65/ per hour to hang duct? ridiculous - unions wages are out of control and dont reflect the actual wages paid throughout the US
Davis Bacon is a bunch of crap and should be outlawed
These are amounts that are agreed to by contract and collective bargaining. They are both legal methods.
Ross Perot warned us that American wages would trend toward $6 per hour as globalization affected the American work place.
Doctors don't make $50 an hour. That's your copay.
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