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Old 07-31-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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Day 1. It begins.

The federal courthouse in Virginia does not allow electronic devices in the building, but we should be getting updates shortly.


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Old 07-31-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Trumpsters will be chirping in, "Manafort's trial has nothing to do with Trump!"

... except Manafort was Trump's campaign manager. And when he was campaign manager, did all those deep relationships with the Russians suddenly disappear? I don't think so.
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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Trumpsters will be chirping in, "Manafort's trial has nothing to do with Trump!"

... except Manafort was Trump's campaign manager. And when he was campaign manager, did all those deep relationships with the Russians suddenly disappear? I don't think so.
Were all those deep relationships with the Russians a concern to you when he committed all these supposed crimes while doing work for the Democrats in the Ukraine under the Obama administration?
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:02 AM
 
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Were all those deep relationships with the Russians a concern to you when he committed all these supposed crimes while doing work for the Democrats in the Ukraine under the Obama administration?
"But that had nothing to do with Obama!!1!" - Elliot
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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Were all those deep relationships with the Russians a concern to you when he committed all these supposed crimes while doing work for the Democrats in the Ukraine under the Obama administration?
that fits the definition of hypocrisy doesn't it?
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:07 AM
 
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Were all those deep relationships with the Russians a concern to you when he committed all these supposed crimes while doing work for the Democrats in the Ukraine under the Obama administration?
Absolutely! Why wouldn't it? Thankfully, Mueller is exposing corruptions such as that Manafort committed. Hopefully, Mueller will expose any and all other similar corruption as well.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:10 AM
 
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"But that had nothing to do with Obama!!1!" - Elliot
Actually, I do doubt Obama enlisted Manafort to be a part of this:

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Paul Manafort, who was Trump's campaign chief from May to August 2016, spent nearly a decade as a consultant to Ukraine's Party of Regions and its standardbearer, Viktor Yanukovych.

Backed by Russian-leaning oligarchs, the party opposed NATO membership and spouted anti-Western rhetoric that once helped fuel violence against American marines. Its reign ended when Yanukovych fled to Russia after bloody street protests against his personal corruption and pro-Moscow actions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...kraine-n775431
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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Absolutely! Why wouldn't it? Thankfully, Mueller is exposing corruptions such as that Manafort committed. Hopefully, Mueller will expose any and all other similar corruption as well.
Keep hoping, he's obviously not and is on a witch hunt. If he was interested in true justice, the person he just gave immunity to for doing the same thing Manafort did would be on trial as well. See, Mueller has himself in a conundrum here since all this happened under his nose while he was head of the FBI same with Comey. If he was interested in real corruption he would be investigating HRC's connections to the Russians as well and all her pay to play schemes along with the collusion with Russia for the fake dossier but yet he isn't. Anyone who thinks he is doing this for true justice is a blind idiot.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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that fits the definition of hypocrisy doesn't it?
Yes it does!

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Manafort, the son of a wealthy Connecticut builder, had worked as a lobbyist and as an aide for Republican presidents before his stint in Ukraine. He had built a reputation for repackaging controversial foreign leaders for U.S. consumption.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...kraine-n775431
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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Keep hoping, he's obviously not and is on a witch hunt. If he was interested in true justice, the person he just gave immunity to for doing the same thing Manafort did would be on trial as well. See, Mueller has himself in a conundrum here since all this happened under his nose while he was head of the FBI same with Comey. If he was interested in real corruption he would be investigating HRC's connections to the Russians as well and all her pay to play schemes along with the collusion with Russia for the fake dossier but yet he isn't. Anyone who thinks he is doing this for true justice is a blind idiot.
You for or against Manafort?
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