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Old 08-04-2018, 12:40 PM
 
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If the election process in this country is so important, you would think the GOP would have been willing to help the states out. But why would they do that when Russia favored trump?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ity/884438002/
Yes--300 million for support in SE Asia against China but nothing for states to improve election security
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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Former member of Trump's Voter Fraud Commission says Trump's claim that "millions" voted illegally simply isn't true.


If you don't want to believe Matt Dunlap, believe the factual evidence that you can read for yourself below.



https://twitter.com/dominicholden/st...73712173264896
I think Matt won't be asked to any more voter fraud parties in the future
He is too honest

We should all be totally grateful for Dunlap's report and inside view of what was happening
The fact that the INTENT was to 'find' voter fraud vs determine if it existed is like a doctor looking at a pimple and telling you that it is Herpes simply to sell you medication and treatment you do n't need for HIS benefit
Trump wants Americans to distrust the voting system so that he can tell them the 2018 elections are illegitimate if there is a "blue wave" to drown Congressional GOPs, yet he doesn't want you to think his election was invalid because of voter irregularities that were reported during the election (many in states where Trump unexpectedly eked out a victory for the electoral college votes) and yet no close scrutiny of those irregularities were allowed to take place...
Too late now when many systems are totally done electronically and the voting machines were wiped w/o doing a forensic investigation for any virus or tampering with the algorhythims...
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Default It seems the democrats are having a territory dispute with Putin over who has the right to interfere with free elections

No one who is conscious can believe voter fraud does not exist and is significant in certain locations and elections.


To believe otherwise is to believe voting is the only government sponsored event that is somehow free of the widespread fraud that impacts all the other government programs.


Further, we all know how fraught with fraud medicare and other programs are and yet the fraud goes undetected by the government watchdogs.


Prosecution of voter fraud has its bar set so high, fraud continues unabated.


Hate to say this, only an idiot or socialist democrat would have you believe voter fraud is insignificant.


Why, heck the Russians have not been shown to impact one vote or election and yet the outcry is deafening. Here we have actual fraud impacting some elections, committed mostly with democrat blessing and protection, and not a peep.


It seems the democrats are having a territory dispute with Putin over who has the right to interfere with free elections!!!!!!
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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No one who is conscious can believe voter fraud does not exist and is significant in certain locations and elections.


To believe otherwise is to believe voting is the only government sponsored event that is somehow free of the widespread fraud that impacts all the other government programs.


Further, we all know how fraught with fraud medicare and other programs are and yet the fraud goes undetected by the government watchdogs.


Prosecution of voter fraud has its bar set so high, fraud continues unabated.


Hate to say this, only an idiot or socialist democrat would have you believe voter fraud is insignificant.


Why, heck the Russians have not been shown to impact one vote or election and yet the outcry is deafening. Here we have actual fraud impacting some elections, committed mostly with democrat blessing and protection, and not a peep.


It seems the democrats are having a territory dispute with Putin over who has the right to interfere with free elections!!!!!!
All that typing, and yet Donald Trump himself is the one who disbanded the committee after months of research and investigating turned up zero proof of "millions" of illegal votes.
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Old 08-04-2018, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Houston
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We don't care. As has been often said about us Trumplings, we will support him almost no matter what, and so far that strategy seems to be paying off for America.
If he gets too far out of hand the legislature is there to keep him in check.
He's not Hillary; he's not a Democrat. And that's what matters. I can't imagine why you think "There Was No Voter Fraud" is some kind of headline.
He lies. He exaggerates. We know. We don't care. It would be nice if he didn't, but we don't really care.


MAGA
You have to understand that we know you and the rest of the Trumplings will support him no matter what. We know this. It used to be a point of concern among us rational people but not so much anymore. The reason is that Trump's core base has been identified and categorized. You know what they found? You guys are a miniscule part of American society. The people who were on the fence or just didn't like Hillary who helped you elect him are long gone from your ranks.

You guys are absent from the rest of the rational, thinking adults in this country and you aren't coming back but that's perfectly fine. We no longer care. We aren't going to win you over. From our perspective it's not even necessary to have dialogue with you people anymore aside from the occasional jabs we take at you for entertainment purposes. The focus is now on the independents.
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Old 08-04-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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All that typing, and yet Donald Trump himself is the one who disbanded the committee after months of research and investigating turned up zero proof of "millions" of illegal votes.
States refused to cooperate with the study.
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Old 08-04-2018, 01:34 PM
 
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No one who is conscious can believe voter fraud does not exist and is significant in certain locations and elections.


To believe otherwise is to believe voting is the only government sponsored event that is somehow free of the widespread fraud that impacts all the other government programs.


Further, we all know how fraught with fraud medicare and other programs are and yet the fraud goes undetected by the government watchdogs.


Prosecution of voter fraud has its bar set so high, fraud continues unabated.


Hate to say this, only an idiot or socialist democrat would have you believe voter fraud is insignificant.


Why, heck the Russians have not been shown to impact one vote or election and yet the outcry is deafening. Here we have actual fraud impacting some elections, committed mostly with democrat blessing and protection, and not a peep.


It seems the democrats are having a territory dispute with Putin over who has the right to interfere with free elections!!!!!!
How many times have you voted?
I vote in every primary and general election and in most others like local school board/bond elections
Have you ever seen anyone called out for voting illegally?
The only time I did the person making the accusation did it because the person she was accusing was speaking Spanish on the phone---
Now the person should not have been ON the phone in the polling area but speaking Spanish does not mean anyone is committing voting fraud...and that person wasn't...

Voting fraud HAS BEEN investigated and found to be minimal--
Voting systems are so fragmented and designed to work in different ways by states and precincts that it is difficult to have wide-spread voter fraud...
There is no real money involved in voter fraud either --
probably one reason why it is not more widespread unlike other government activities like being a Congressman or a WH Cabinet member and abusing public coffers by gross expenditures or using insider knowledge to profit from stock offers or other business opportunities
Or being a lobbyist
Or running a clinic and creating hundreds/thousands of bogus Medicare and Medicaid billing items to gain millions from the government...

Voter fraud happens with Gerrymandering efforts as well--because voters who have their votes deliberately diluted in districts where their vote loses any appreciable value are cheated of their power to elect a representative of their values...
So if you want to include partisan Gerrymandering then sure--I agree that has come out loud and proud in the past 10 years and in majority of cases on the GOP's side--because they have abused their legislative powers once gaining the state legislature...
There are plenty of cases to validate their deliberate attempt to create artificial districts/precincts to guarantee GOP longevity in election returns...
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Old 08-04-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Tell that to Donald Trump, he's the one who disbanded the committee.


https://twitter.com/KevinMillerPPH/s...58857299111937
Hmm..so Matt personally contacted the "millions" of voters to see if they were legal citizens and that they only voted once in their district and have a valid address? Somehow, that seems rather unlikely...
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Old 08-04-2018, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Hmm..so Matt personally contacted the "millions" of voters to see if they were legal citizens and that they only voted once in their district and have a valid address? Somehow, that seems rather unlikely...
So Trump had evidence that there were 3 million instances of voter fraud in California? That is what he claimed and yet he produced no evidence but you still believe him.
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Old 08-04-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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You have to understand that we know you and the rest of the Trumplings will support him no matter what.


And that gripes the left so baaaaad.

You nor anyone else can make Trump supporters irrelevant. You can't make us insignificant no matter how hard you try to.

You radicals will support your guy no matter how much they kill, steal and destroy so your indignation is hypocritical.

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