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Yes, you are correct. Her campaign and the DNC paid for it.
I was splitting hairs in comparison to what Trump did. Don, Jr. personally met with the Russian contact at Trump tower. He was personally emailing. Hillary Clinton's campaign (as an entity) as well as the DNC paid for the the continuing research. That distinction is important to me because if it is worded that Hillary Clinton, the individual, was independently seeking information out in this way, that is not quite on the up and up or probably the way it needs to be done. So, I am sorry that I did not clarify my own meaning on that. it needs to come from the campaign entity and reported properly.
The Clinton campaign as well as the DNC legally contracted with Fusion for information. It was all correctly reported (how it was paid for, what they did) and when shady things turned it, it was not publicized but turned over to the FBI.
Very different than what Junior did and tried to hide.
The previous poster is trying his/her best to make the democratic opposition research appear as seedy and as illegal as Don Junior's efforts. Not in the same league at all.
How is what's happening any different then the attacks that were thrown at Dems during the Obama years,I see it as tit for tat. Ya get what you give!
What are you talking about. These same attacks were coming FROM the Democrats during the Obama years. It all started by calling anyone who dared to disagree with Obama a racist, as a matter of routine.
Don't lie and say you don't remember or that you didn't notice that.
In what way did Republicans act similarly to this during the Obama years? I really am drawing a blank.
What if it is their opinion and the poster of the idea is themselves the source? ...
Then they should reveal clearly the reason for "their own opinion". We have the freedom to believe whatever we want in our own minds, but we can never change reality. There is only one Absolute Truth, and stating something to the contrary does not make it so.
They must have a reason. Psychic flash? No problem, they could easily state that they made it up or dreamed it. That would lend the proper weight to their argument.
People can not state something as fact without being prepared to give a reason to believe it is fact. If I disagree, I will state my reasons, and the court of public opinion will judge for themselves. That is public discourse.
I never expect to change the mind of someone I am responding to, and they should not expect me to change my mind without a convincing argument including necessary back up.
It's really all about the 'third person', the lurkers and passers-by who come across the discussion. They can make up their own minds based upon what they read here. If we can not back up our positions they will not take our posts seriously.
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Originally Posted by Spartacus713
...Is it not OK with you for people to have opinions independent of the publicly published, Democrat left's "Political correctness" talking points?
If it is OK, then you have to be ready to allow people to express those opinions, and just accept them as that, even if you disagree. Not everyone has to think like you or agree with you, or the people who you rely on to be informed by.
Am I reading you correctly? Do you make the assumption that people who disagree with you have been told what to think?
Do you seriously believe that the only reason people disagree with you is because they have been given 'talking points' ? While at the same time asserting that people who agree with you 'are their own source' ?
There was a time that when a poster didn't hew to or contradicted a liberal/progressive viewpoint they were accused of being a member of Stormfront. Now they're accused of being a Russian bot.
What will it be next.
There was a time when anyone who made a "Hitler" or "Nazi" accusation about someone who wasn't actually loading Jews into box cars was immediately discredited as a loon and a partisan extremist.
I google, other things, but I'm not going to google what you present as facts....why is that so hard to understand? We understand that you just like to sling crap at the wall and hope nobody questions it....true leftist fashion....
I have been on here since 2008 and have noticed a big uptake in new people, always conservative, right before elections and then right afterward they disappear. I have no doubt in my mind that these people are paid posters since you never see them in any other forum section.
I have been on here since 2008 and have noticed a big uptake in new people, always conservative, right before elections and then right afterward they disappear. I have no doubt in my mind that these people are paid posters since you never see them in any other forum section.
You can say that with both sides. There are several from the other end who posted in and started thread after thread prior to the election, actually every election since I've been on starting in 2008, and immediately disappear when the votes are counted.`
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