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Old 08-17-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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The tax overhaul back in January removed the tax penalty for having no insurance. Why are Republicans still committed to killing Obamacare? Are the insurance companies trying to deny us coverage for pre-existing conditions?



Unless you have less salary than stock dividends, you have no reason to vote Republican.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:49 AM
 
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just because a couple parts of the law have been eliminated, the penalty for not having insurance, and the mandate that you have to buy insurance, and the mandate that that businesses have to supply insurance, doesnt mean the other parts of the law are not still in effect. there are also 21,000+ pages of regulations that are a result of the law as well, and they need to be addressed as well.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Why are Republicans Still Running Against Obamacare?
Because it's a total failure and has driven up costs exponentially.
Surely this is understandable for someone who wants to end the War on Drugs because "it is a failure", and who resists building The Wall "because it won't work".
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The tax overhaul back in January removed the tax penalty for having no insurance. Why are Republicans still committed to killing Obamacare? Are the insurance companies trying to deny us coverage for pre-existing conditions?



Unless you have less salary than stock dividends, you have no reason to vote Republican.
Or in other words, if you care about America and want it to be great, vote Republican. If you want America to die, vote Dimocrap.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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34 states have used the mandate. Now the GOP has nothing to replace it with.

So they will claim that it is failing.

The reality is Trump and the GOP are purposely damaging the ACA in the hope it will die.

It will take us back to no coverage for ridicules costs. With more rural areas of the nation becoming worse off.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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34 states have used the mandate. Now the GOP has nothing to replace it with.

So they will claim that it is failing.

The reality is Trump and the GOP are purposely damaging the ACA in the hope it will die.

It will take us back to no coverage for ridicules costs. With more rural areas of the nation becoming worse off.
Obamascare was terrible and is going to die and deservedly so...it was terrible law. I think Obama meant to make a terrible to make a future for socialized medicine. If the Dims ever do get back in power, they need to consider all the plans worldwide and pick the best to implement.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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34 states have used the mandate. Now the GOP has nothing to replace it with.

So they will claim that it is failing.

The reality is Trump and the GOP are purposely damaging the ACA in the hope it will die.

It will take us back to no coverage for ridicules costs. With more rural areas of the nation becoming worse off.
So the Republicans are responsible for breaking a program that was broken from its inception?
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Because it's a total failure and has driven up costs exponentially.
Surely this is understandable for someone who wants to end the War on Drugs because "it is a failure", and who resists building The Wall "because it won't work".

And we were promised time after time after time it would be replaced by a far better plan soon after Trump took office. I guess Republicans would rather not run on that.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:52 AM
 
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The tax overhaul back in January removed the tax penalty for having no insurance. Why are Republicans still committed to killing Obamacare? Are the insurance companies trying to deny us coverage for pre-existing conditions?
No, they are just making it unaffordable for so many. The GOP doesn't have the balls to live up to their promises and I'm stuck hoping for the slim chance of someone getting elected that will buck the insurance companies and fight for what this country really needs. A health care system not run by the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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Because it's a total failure and has driven up costs exponentially.
I disagree.

We had been experiencing exponential cost increases for decades, I know because I am old enough to have experienced it first hand. Real shock and awe, over and over again year by year. That is actually why we have had a genuine need to intervene with some kind of new approach. Other modern western countries had reached this conclusion much earlier than we did, and made even more radical choices.

Fact Check.Org has this to say about it:


The total average family plan cost increased by 43 percent from 2008 to 2016, but it went up more than double that rate — 97 percent — from 2000 to 2008. (before the ACA)

The only real problem with Obamacare was that it was seriously compromised in an attempt not to cut out the for profit insurance industry already established in the market. We could have used Israel or Australia or Norway as a model and just gone full bore on it, or extended Medicare to all ages as was suggested decades ago when Medicare was first introduced.


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And we were promised time after time after time it would be replaced by a far better plan soon after Trump took office. I guess Republicans would rather not run on that.
They can't!

They have no plan to deal with this issue which would not hurt their big money donors in the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. They will do nothing positive and hope we are misled by their propaganda or distracted by some other concerns.
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