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We are not talking about "pops and uncles" here and a spanking. It's whether you go to prison for your natural life, see your wife and kids prosper, or not. Trump is a piece of human garbage who turns on everyone. He deserves betrayal. Anyway, Cohen says he is doing it for his country. Maybe the rest are too now that they see what a disaster they have unleashed on American democracy.
They knowingly committed crimes, and enjoyed the highlife. Their arms weren’t twisted. You take your own damn heat when you get caught. That’s what a man does.
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Originally Posted by sickofnyc
Trump would throw them under the bus just as quickly. Why would he deserve or expect loyalty?
Doesn’t matter. If Trump was a great guy while you were high rollin’, then ride it out when it all goes south. You don’t flip and help the prosecutor close other cases on other crooks.
They knowingly committed crimes, and enjoyed the highlife. Their arms weren’t twisted. You take your own damn heat when you get caught. That’s what a man does.
Doesn’t matter. If Trump was a great guy while you were high rollin’, then ride it out when it all goes south. You don’t flip and help the prosecutor close other cases on other crooks.
But I don’t believe there’s any justification for talking even if Trump was the worst guy on Earth. If you knowingly committed a crime, you don’t testify on your cohorts.
Trump surrounds himself with people who tell him what he wants to hear. Someone like that, by definition, doesn't have much integrity.
I think someone who would be loyal to Trump, because they're principled and not because they admire Trump, would have a hard time working for him. He neither seeks out nor works well with people of principle.
Trump is so amoral by words and actions that calling someone a "rat," is just a good example of how the guy has zero insight about himself and his own behaviors...for decades. Trump is a rat himself. I'm sure he'd throw anyone under the bus in a NY minute, and has many times over.
But I don’t believe there’s any justification for talking even if Trump was the worst guy on Earth. If you knowingly committed a crime, you don’t testify on your cohorts.
They are scum and Trump is scum and why would they go to jail for him as opposed to copping a plea? He would not do it for them and he knows it and they know it. And for all we know, they might have admitted that much to each other when discussing the possibility of ever getting caught. Manafort has not flipped...yet.
Growing up, one lesson that still sticks with me that my pop and uncles taught me was that you NEVER tell on anyone if you get caught doing something wrong. Even if telling can and will attenuate your consequences, you hold your tongue and take your heat. If your confederates escape punishment, then too bad for you. You take your weight AND theirs if you have to.
Even when we got into trouble in our household, snitching on my siblings that participated was a nono! Even if my Pop or Mom asked if they were involved, we’d lie about it. Of course, my parents knew we were fulla you-know-what, but they admitted to grudging admiration for keeping your tongue.
Trump is a guy that doesn’t inspire loyalty. Some of you Trump supporters would go to jail before Cohen would, and Trump has never given you a dime. But Trump is right...these rats he surrounded himself with enjoyed all the perks when the going was good, but when it all falls apart, they turn into canaries. I don’t respect that. Not one bit.
Of course, I’m enjoying watching all these rats jump ship to torment Trump, but they’re still dirtbags. Once Cohen and other losers sink Trump for good, I wouldn’t care if they dropped dead.
It’s like Linda Tripp with Clinton. Once the Republicans got their use outta her, they dumped her like a bag of garbage. They wouldn’t give her a dime after they got their quarry in the form of Bill Clinton. They never cared about Tripp herself.
Reagan’s or Obama’s guys would’ve never sold their boss down the river like this. Valerie Jarrett or Susan Rice would have to be waterboarded before they’d give up Obama. Even Dubya’s guys were mostly loyal. JFK’s guys (that are still alive) are STILL loyal to his legacy. They won’t say a bad word about him.
Damn Donald...you sure know how to pick’em. Lol
There's a reason for the saying, "snitches get stitches". You don't rat people out. I wasn't necessarily taught that while growing up, but it seemed to be something I understood at a young age when I was getting in trouble for things my brother did. He told me one time, "Don't tell mom I did it" knowing full well I was getting the blame. I never did tell her, and I took the heat, because that's what you do when you're loyal.
We'll see what happens with all of these sewer rats making claims, as I don't think they will "sink Trump", but regardless of anyone's politics, those types of people should disgust you. And if they don't, you're probably one of those rats.
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