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AS for this point, if we are going to hold every stupid thing the candidate did as a child/college age then I will say there probably will not be that many good candidates on either party. EVERYONE has done some stupid things. EVERYONE.
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Most of us never tried to rape anyone. We respected it when a girl said "No."
This. ^^^ There are stupid things people do in high school and then there is turning up a stereo to drown out screams while holding your hand over a girl's mouth and pinning her to the bed while you grope her.
Those allegations go way beyond "every stupid thing the candidate did as a child/college age."
The fact that he did not document his "rape" parties does not suggest he is innocent, it suggests he his lawyers have no witnesses who support him.
I find this statement ironic as thus far, it's the only evidence in existence that even documents that time period. Remember, she has no witnesses to support her. You could say he does as the people she claims were there are all denying that to be the case.
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NOPE, but we get it, many on the right would love to have the 4th estate suspended for Trump's term but to allow FOX and other right wing outlets to spread their lies unfettered....
If moderating these forums (I don't mod P&OC, btw) was on the same level with being a Supreme Court Justice, I'd agree that your claims should be investigated, even if I did know that in 1982, I was in 8th grade and didn't even live in the same town as you. So, yeah...
I think people who claim they were assaulted should at least be given the courtesy of an investigation.
so the burden of proof on allegations on Supreme Court nominees should be a lot lower than yours and the rest of Americans?
we have a statue of limitations..........if the FBI and the Maryland police can't investigate this and all of the people the accuser names contradict her story and denies it, what do you want the police to investigate?
She can't even bring this to civil court.
you don't know me, I could accuse you of anything, 36 years ago......you were in 8th grade? so!!! you raped me, you touched my private parts, you forced yourself on me.....no one can back up my allegations, not even my longtime friend.....should we have the FBI investigate it?
Should we suspend you from here as a moderator until you prove your innocence and the police investigate my claims......we can't have alleged rapists as moderators here.
I still can't understand how any reasonable person doesn't agree that a formal FBI investigation is the best and only way to truly find the truth, or at least find out who is lying.
A "he said/she said" later this week will not tell us anything. One side (democrats) vehemently defend and believe Ford. The other side (republicans) vehemently defend and believe Kavanaugh.
This is an incredibly politicized situation, and who better than the unbiased, non-partisan FBI to investigate and release a formal report on their findings?
Can anybody make a reasonable argument against that?
The same FBI that Hillary blames for her election loss?
The same FBI that had to fire 2 employees based on their constant Trump bashing?
I don't know, sounds like regardless of any results of an FBI investigation, each side will already have their taking points and deflection ready.
Kavanaugh is not an ordinary person applying for an ordinary job. He is being confirmed for one of the most important posts in our country; his decisions on the SCOTUS will affect our lives and the lives of our children and grandchildren for decades, if not centuries to come.
For that reason it is absolutely essential that every allegation or observation about this man's character be scrutinized in the greatest possible detail. It is a no-brainer that every effort is made to clear Kavanaugh, so that every citizen can be confident that he has the requisite values to be a Justice of the Supreme Court. It's hard to believe this is even being debated.
Even IF Ford is somehow or in some way partially correct about what she claims the question one has to ask oneself is "Are you the same today as you were in High School"? For those who are older than say, 35 and grown up it SHOULD be a resounding NOPE.
The second question one has to ask oneself is "Is there anything in his ADULT life that points to anything like what Ford describes"?
Nope...
Of course if your a rabid left ideologue those questions won't even resonate or break through the TDS noise...
The same FBI that Hillary blames for her election loss?
The same FBI that had to fire 2 employees based on their constant Trump bashing?
I don't know, sounds like regardless of any results of an FBI investigation, each side will already have their taking points and deflection ready.
How's about where the investigation SHOULD be and that's with the LEO's who have jurisdiction? Why is it that people are soooooo afraid of that? Trot her arse on down to the PD and file the damn accusation if she's so sure...
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