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Most of us conservatives were once young and stupid too, and thus were liberals. You see, everyone is born a liberal, not understanding reality and not having the necessary experience in life to understand it. In the course of human development, most people will naturally grow out of that ignorance of adolescence, but liberals are people who remain stuck in that adolescent stage.
Yes, liberalism is truly a mental illness.
And you are going to claim you are not aware of how the brain works? Decline of most all functions after a certain age?
And.or that many people, when older, make the wrong (or convenient) choices which we might call "selling out" and therefore pretend to be conservatives...and may eventually turn that way?
I knew a couple "Lords of War" who did BIG contracts for Lockheed Martin. Former Military high brass...making MILLIONS from current contracts, etc.
But even they, on the side, said they throught GW Bush was an idiot and didn't support his wars. But what were they supposed do...give up the contracts and go March on DC? Of course not.
You would be complete amazed to know how many tens of millions of Americans saw some part of the cash during the Bush Wars. Most would call themselves "conservative" because it is what you must be if you take a lot of cash from the government for killing machines (or related)....
Becoming "conservative" when older is not a good thing...it means you've gone stale and maybe sold out.
Is it "authoritarian" to require NFL football players stand for the national anthem during the pre-game show, or should we allow a player to take a knee if they so choose? From what I've been able to gather from conservatives who have posted their opinion in this thread, the answer is no for player freedom to do as they choose. To require all players to stand for the national anthem is not authoritarian or fascism but patriotism. For others not so conservative, the requirement that players stand for the national anthem is more authoritarian and fascist, not to be confused with patriotism.
It might be patriotism if all the folks in the stands did it willingly. But since they don't, it sounds more like what might be a "tradition" during "entertainment".
It's authoritarian when the POTUS and the masses get involved and try to force it. You have to separate the deed from the method.
It might be patriotism if all the folks in the stands did it willingly. But since they don't, it sounds more like what might be a "tradition" during "entertainment".
It's authoritarian when the POTUS and the masses get involved and try to force it. You have to separate the deed from the method.
I don't think what happens in the stands has bearing on opinion or decision regarding what the players are required or free to do during the national anthem, or that even "tradition" or "entertainment" makes the difference when it comes to what is authoritarian as far as a conservative or liberal is concerned.
Again depending on who you ask, their perspective about such things tends to fall on that dividing line that separates conservatives from liberals, even though feelings of patriotism and/or love of country are equally strong on both sides.
Not sure I get the "deed from method" comment either, but if the "method" is by way of requirement rather than freedom to choose, I believe that smacks more of authoritarian regardless what deed we're talking about...
Look how many times posters have responded "but.. but Trump supporters and conservatives do this and that". What did I say at the beginning? I said the right have their own problems also, so don't deflect from answering how the left has become more and more authoritarian. Answer it.
Some of you instead of answering my charges, call me a Trump supporter instead and this and that. However there are plenty of times I have criticized him, I am not a particular Trump supporter. Just because I criticize the left like in this thread, you the left assume I must be a die hard of the other side.
Look how many times posters have responded "but.. but Trump supporters and conservatives do this and that". What did I say at the beginning? I said the right have their own problems also, so don't deflect from answering how the left has become more and more authoritarian. Answer it.
Some of you instead of answering my charges, call me a Trump supporter instead and this and that. However there are plenty of times I have criticized him, I am not a particular Trump supporter. Just because I criticize the left like in this thread, you the left assume I must be a die hard of the other side.
That has been my stance as well. I'm shocked at how the left is becoming fascists almost in some ways. I'm an issues guy overall, I don't particularly identify as really left or right. I have views on some things that would put me firmly into the left or more liberal side and I have some views that would horrify people on left side.
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However, we all know that Trump is a Russian draped in the American Flag.
And we all know he is a Democrat pretending to be Republican because Russia's playmates are Republicans.
Americans want obedience to the constitution and the established rule of law.
Trump Republicans want obedience to Trump and his arbitrary and capricious policy s on law enforcement.
Trumps got both wings filled up. No more room.
His are the dark days of American history.
giggle. I cant tell if you are being serious or just being silly.
Trump republicans want... "obedience to Trump"? is that why we are supportive of his actions that have LIMITED government intervention into the lives of ordinary citizens? LOL.
YOU PEOPLE want "obedience to the constitution"... is that why your people keep acting out violently, rampaging and rioting, shutting down freeways with illegal marchs, and pooping on cop cars?
or like how you shut down political speech you disagree with by using violence?
is that why Judge Kavaugh's (sp) family just left the hearings because of the violent protests taking place?
or how your side speaks out regularly that you want the second amendment removed from the constitution?
Like that?
There is one side of the American debate that shows continual fidelity to the constition. It aint the left. There is one side that demands unwavering obedience to their dogma... and it aint the right.
Look how many times posters have responded "but.. but Trump supporters and conservatives do this and that". What did I say at the beginning? I said the right have their own problems also, so don't deflect from answering how the left has become more and more authoritarian. Answer it.
Some of you instead of answering my charges, call me a Trump supporter instead and this and that. However there are plenty of times I have criticized him, I am not a particular Trump supporter. Just because I criticize the left like in this thread, you the left assume I must be a die hard of the other side.
How about not trying to pass off some random guys opinion on Quora as your own, as fact?
Gotta love when someone complains about not having an honest conversation when the entire premise was a sham in the first place.
How about not trying to pass off some random guys opinion on Quora as your own, as fact?
Gotta love when someone complains about not having an honest conversation when the entire premise was a sham in the first place.
Actually I myself googled "authoritarian left" and that quote came up which expressed it well so I went with it. So know it was my bright idea not just someone random opinion.
The bigger question you should ask is WHY I and many have come to see the left as being authoritarian. Couple with the fact that since Trump's election the left has gone farther to the left, where the term socialist is now told openly in pride. The foolish thing is though that left has done by going farther left, most Americans don't support far right or left but the left instead has chosen to go even farther left since Trump's election which means that blue wave will be a bunch of blue tears after the next election like the run for governor in Florida.
Actually I myself googled "authoritarian left" and that quote came up which expressed it well so I went with it. So know it was my bright idea not just someone random opinion.
The bigger question you should ask is WHY I and many have come to see the left as being authoritarian. Couple with the fact that since Trump's election the left has gone farther to the left, where the term socialist is now told openly in pride. The foolish thing is though that left has done by going farther left, most Americans don't support far right or left but the left instead has chosen to go even farther left since Trump's election which means that blue wave will be a bunch of blue tears after the next election like the run for governor in Florida.
Lol. You do realize that google will confirm a bias if you’re out to prove one, right?
It’s comical that you weren’t able to find a legitimate source to define your contrived “authoritarian-left” narrative.
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