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Old 08-28-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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No doubt this is an issue that also seriously divides America, with Trump in the mix in typical embarrassing fashion, and no doubt there have been more than a few prior threads about this as a result, but rather than let this get buried in one of those many prior threads, I think Kareem's recent insights about all this sports protest business are particularly worthy of consideration...

"Sports is one of the few areas in which Americans of all races can talk to each other. Right now, it may be the country’s best hope for meaningful dialogue"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ter-in-america

If only Trump and more Americans would/could consider what they are so badly missing. Purposely or unwittingly, I'm really not sure...
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:05 AM
 
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I don't need to read or understand anything. I'm perfectly clear on the subject. I don't know a single person that is allowed to protest on the job period. End of story.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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I don't need to read or understand anything. I'm perfectly clear on the subject. I don't know a single person that is allowed to protest on the job period. End of story.
And I don't know of any job, other than sports, where you are forced to stand for the pledge every time you start work.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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And I don't know of any job, other than sports, where you are forced to stand for the pledge every time you start work.
Private business, they can do as they wish. If a player doesn't like it, nobody is forcing them to play. There are other professional football leagues, they just don't pay as much.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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you can't insult the flag and national anthem that I and millions of Americans love and then ask for a dialog. That's ignorant.


that's like insulting a woman and then pretending that she would go out with you and talk.


that's like insulting the Black race in something they hold dear and pretend we can later have a conversation?.................. and who are you kidding? I seen this "debate" before and ends, if people don't view their views on things then all of the sudden we are racists and don't care for X group of people.




so save the BS on trying to have a dialog......I don't go to sport games to have a dialog about my politics or your politics and the least the politics of over-paid athletes telling me how I should feel and think and react.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:15 AM
 
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What the players and the league and the SJW's who support them need to understand is that the fans are under no obligation to watch their product. It doesn't matter how they justify their protests, if the fans decide they don't want to see it, they won't see it.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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The NFL players caused the division so lets get that straight. Its on them !!!

We are not missing that point !!!
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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And I don't know of any job, other than sports, where you are forced to stand for the pledge every time you start work.


My job has a dress code. Other jobs don't. Does that mean that having a dress code cannot be enforced? NOOO... if I showed up to work in a tshirt with a burning flag on it I would be asked to change. If I refused, I would be fired. Even if I claimed I was protesting. End of story. This is not a political issue. Yes, the President speaking on it politized it to a certain degree but it is not political. A private employer has the right to make company policy. The employee has the right to quit if they don't like it.
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:17 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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I don't need to read or understand anything. I'm perfectly clear on the subject. I don't know a single person that is allowed to protest on the job period. End of story.
Then why don't the owners just fire them?
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Old 08-28-2018, 11:21 AM
 
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But these kneeling jack asses aren’t saying anything. They’re just acting silly. If they truly want to have an effect they should go out into their own communities and put their money where their mouth is. Or maybe they should put their money where their knee is.
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