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Old 08-29-2018, 12:12 PM
 
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Trump is purposely using this issue, a race issue, to divide the country. It is what he does best.
Nonsense, unless you are saying that

Blacks don't respect the flag, the USA and our veterans.


That would be racist.
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Old 08-29-2018, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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One comment I wish to make in reference to Trump and his "core" supporters.

Back in May the owners came up with a new policy saying that players could remain off the field during the Anthem, but must stand if on the field. At the time Trump was not crazy about the "staying in the locker-room" part but said he was glad they came up with something. His core supporters claimed "Trump won".

Now about a month ago Trump said that staying in the locker-room is as bad as kneeling. That being said if the players assoc and owners come in agreement with that policy, will Trump and many of his core supporters continue to blast those that remain off the field during the Anthem?
They move the goal posts towards forced patriotism. What is this a dictatorship, I thought this was America where we show patriotism in our own ways.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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But these kneeling jack asses aren’t saying anything. They’re just acting silly. If they truly want to have an effect they should go out into their own communities and put their money where their mouth is. Or maybe they should put their money where their knee is.

If you knew anything about the players, you'd know that they do.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Right, so a unionized private business, same as people with "real" jobs.

By definition, all jobs are real. Your opinion about certain jobs is irrelevant.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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"Meaningful dialogue" and freedom to protest are all well and good, but still not at "work" sorry thats not being closed minded its just reality and its how you keep a happy healthy work place. If I owned a business, all politics and protests would be a no-go during official business.

"No, no...they can protest as long as that protest don't make too big a splash, or interrupt anything, or you know, make me think about anything...that's totally fine. But now, the minute they start garnering attention and getting their voices heard, and making impactful public statements, that's where I draw the line."
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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The great thing is their collective bargaining agreement doesn't stop me from changing the channel.
And the great thing about you changing the channel is that it doesn't make the rest of us miss out on football. Football is doing fine - - if you're fine without it, bully to you.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Pacific Beach/San Diego
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I don't watch sports to be lectured about Politics or Civil Rights. If they start that, that's when the TV goes off.

Apparently I'm not alone.
Kneeling or taking a knee is a lecture?

You're not alone - - and you're not missed. Can't wait for kickoff.
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Old 08-29-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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And the great thing about you changing the channel is that it doesn't make the rest of us miss out on football. Football is doing fine - - if you're fine without it, bully to you.
If football is doing fine then what's the problem? Why the need for players to explain themselves? Why the need to "read and understand"? Why the need for the league to try to look like it is doing something about it? They should just tell us to pizz off if we don't like it. I know I'm happy to.
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Old 08-29-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Federal Way, WA
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They move the goal posts towards forced patriotism.
Patriotism has turned into right wing PC talk. You must be patriotic in the way they approve.
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Old 08-29-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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No doubt this is an issue that also seriously divides America, with Trump in the mix in typical embarrassing fashion, and no doubt there have been more than a few prior threads about this as a result, but rather than let this get buried in one of those many prior threads, I think Kareem's recent insights about all this sports protest business are particularly worthy of consideration...

"Sports is one of the few areas in which Americans of all races can talk to each other. Right now, it may be the country’s best hope for meaningful dialogue"

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ter-in-america

If only Trump and more Americans would/could consider what they are so badly missing. Purposely or unwittingly, I'm really not sure...
bull.


and sports by the design of the left is becoming of, by and for the left.


I have never needed a football player. I have had to lean on a first responder or two.


That isn't an argument. As a vet that served in one of Americas war, what these guys need to know is they need me vastly more than I need them. They aren't engendering any affection when they spend their time insulting me.


PS Donald Trump isn't the one dividing America. That is asinine. The ones dividing America are the ones spitting on those of us who have written a blank check to this country, for the protection of people we will never meet. Donald Trump never did that. He just called it like it is and that upset the crybaby fruitloops out there being dirtbags.
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