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Old 08-31-2018, 01:55 PM
 
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The DSM-5 indicates that persons with NPD usually display some or all of the following symptoms, typically without the commensurate qualities or accomplishments:
  1. Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
  2. Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
  3. Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
  4. Needing continual admiration from others
  5. Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
  6. Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
  7. Unwilling to empathize with the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
  8. Intensely envious of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them
  9. Pompous and arrogant demeanor

Or is it symptomatic of presidential candidates in general.
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Old 08-31-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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It's been obvious long before he was elected President by the Electoral College.
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Old 08-31-2018, 02:00 PM
 
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Same as the guy before him.
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Old 08-31-2018, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Same as the guy before him.
No, you're comparing apples to oranges. A massive false equivalency.


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Old 08-31-2018, 07:17 PM
 
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How about writing out the term Narcissistic Personality Disorder, so everyone would know what you're talking about? It's widely agreed that Trump is a narcissist and although, as you said, it's likely common to all presidents, and probably a lot of CEOs and entertainers, too - but, yes, it's excessive to the point of mania with Trump.

I like the point that the condition exists in the absence of real accomplishments. I'd posted the Neil Barsky article about Trump actually being a bad businessman.

Trump, the Bad, Bad Businessman
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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The DSM-5 indicates that persons with NPD usually display some or all of the following symptoms, typically without the commensurate qualities or accomplishments:
  1. Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from other people
  2. Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
  3. Self-perception of being unique, superior, and associated with high-status people and institutions
  4. Needing continual admiration from others
  5. Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
  6. Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
  7. Unwilling to empathize with the feelings, wishes, and needs of other people
  8. Intensely envious of others, and the belief that others are equally envious of them
  9. Pompous and arrogant demeanor

Or is it symptomatic of presidential candidates in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater_rule

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The Goldwater rule is the informal name given to Section 7 in the American Psychiatric Association's (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics[1], which states that it is unethical for psychiatrists to give a professional opinion about public figures whom they have not examined in person, and from whom they have not obtained consent to discuss their mental health in public statements.
Pretty much exactly what you are doing, unless of course you have evaluated him in person. But hey, take a guy who thinks he is a know it all and better than everyone, and then act exactly the same way by judging him and ignoring common sense practices, makes you just as good as he is. The hypocrisy is just too much sometimes.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I loved NYPD Blue.

Good old Sipowicz
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Old 08-31-2018, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's been obvious long before he was elected President by the Electoral College.

It has been apparent his entire adult life.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express as well...


Last edited by DRob4JC; 08-31-2018 at 10:52 PM..
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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I think your thread suffers from NPD.
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