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Old 09-07-2018, 06:21 AM
 
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It doesn't matter whether what Jones writes is factual. What matters is that, in the public arena, he should have the right to say it.

This is a slippery slope, which will, if not checked, one day engulf most speech. If these monopolistic social media companies are now in a position to pose a great threat to liberty and the freedom to access information of all sorts.

In the past, real liberals would have defended someone like Jones.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:22 AM
 
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Didn't liberals once believe in the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

What happened?

https://apnews.com/2521ccbe3b5a43d68...s-citing-abuse
But Ann Coulter, Hannity, Rush, and all kinds of other conservative pundits haven't been banned?

It isn't because Alex Jones is a conservative. It's because he's crazy and hateful and scary.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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It doesn't matter whether what Jones writes is factual. What matters is that, in the public arena, he should have the right to say it.

This is a slippery slope, which will, if not checked, one day engulf most speech. If these monopolistic social media companies are now in a position to pose a great threat to liberty and the freedom to access information of all sorts.

In the past, real liberals would have defended someone like Jones.
Last I checked Twitter is a private forum with their own terms and conditions.

Ask your government to set up a public twitter like forum and then you have a media outlet where we can say -- it's a public forum
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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Didn't liberals once believe in the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

What happened?

https://apnews.com/2521ccbe3b5a43d68...s-citing-abuse
Take a class on government.

The Federal government is not stopping Alex Jones from speaking. A private company is.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:26 AM
 
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Where is my right to free speech when I'm banned from a message board????? Every day people are banned from fb, twitter, message boards etc



Right wingers have no clue to what free speech means. They just always want to be victims.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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Last I checked Twitter is a private forum with their own terms and conditions.

Ask your government to set up a public twitter like forum and then you have a media outlet where we can say -- it's a public forum
Twitter and others have now become de facto public utilities serving in a monopolistic manner. The government will be forced to regulate these companies as it does other public communication utilities such as telephone and broadcasting companies.

They have brought it on themselves.

Free speech of course applies, under the context of the law to being able to speak out against the government. What you lefties here are missing is not whether his free speech is being violated, but whether, in the spirit of open dialogue, should these companies and should we in general in this nation be trying to quiet each other and such each other up?

Liberals of the past would say no, we should not be trying to shut people up, whether it is a free speech issue whereby people are speaking out against the government or whether it is in the public arena, even with private companies. Bill Maher is correct on this matter.

It is you, who are missing the point.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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I pay little attention to Alex Jones, but think its bad business and doesnt bode well for freedom. not really surprising since most tech plattforms are overwelmingly leftist orgs. where open mindedness is not a trait. In the end however, ownership rights must prevail and once they become nothing more than echo chambers, maybe these platforms will decline and freer/ more open minded ones will emerge.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:28 AM
 
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Didn't liberals once believe in the saying "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

What happened?

https://apnews.com/2521ccbe3b5a43d68...s-citing-abuse

You apparently don't understand what freedom of speech is and what TOS agreements are.

Did i miss the part where Alex Jones was arrested for what he said?

I suggest getting an understanding of what Freedom of Speech is and what Social Media TOS agreements are before you start threads complaining about freedom of speech on a message board.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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For them to go to such great lengths and impose a lifetime ban...he must have been a very credible threat!
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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Property rights. You own the platform, you control the content.
Now if the leftists would consistently apply the same principles to bakers of cakes.
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