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Did not look like a teenager was in that picture? Funny, I'm teaching my son that fast food jobs are not for you to live on.....
Ambulance drivers only make $11 an hour as well. And bakers and hairdressers make $12 an hour.
If huge numbers of jobs are not meant to live on, and you have to be homeless working that job, then the government is failing in representing the interests of the working class.
Ambulance drivers only make $11 an hour as well. And bakers and hairdressers make $12 an hour. .
And where are they?
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Originally Posted by PCALMike
If huge numbers of jobs are not meant to live on, and you have to be homeless working that job, then the government is failing in representing the interests of the working class.
So, what do you want the government to do? You want a $15 minimum wage? Where do we go next? $20?
How about get educated (and that does not mean you have to go to school, at least not college), learn a skill so you have the ability to move up in life and not want people make your life for you.
Where are the bakers, hairdressers and ambulance drivers? They are everywhere in this country.
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Originally Posted by chucksnee
So, what do you want the government to do? You want a $15 minimum wage? Where do we go next? $20?
How about get educated (and that does not mean you have to go to school, at least not college), learn a skill so you have the ability to move up in life and not want people make your life for you.
The minimum wage should reflect the national income level of the country. Every year. If we as a society become poorer, then the minimum wage should decline as well. If we get richer, it should increase. If the government is no longer willing to serve the people, but simply serve the big money donors who want to eliminate the minimum wage, destroy the unions and get corporate welfare, then the system is failing the working class. Its as simply as that. Simply demanding that bakers, pre-school teachers, bartenders, life guards, ambulance drivers, cooks, nursing assistants, hairdressers, store clerks, animal caretakers, taxi drivers etc etc should just shut up and accept poverty is not acceptable.
A moderate minimum wage prevents employers from bottom feeding worker pay and leads to little change in unemployment. There is a point that it WILL lead to higher employment. $15 is clearly above that point in most areas.
In some areas, given the extreme costs, professionals are being pushed to living in RVs. This would be like a 40 dollar minimum wage and people still end up homeless. The housing market is literally tearing the area apart for the bottom ?60? percent. What do you do then?
Wage is meaningless. It’s all about what the wage will buy in any given local economy. There are more than 3000 local economies in the US.
Where are the bakers, hairdressers and ambulance drivers? They are everywhere in this country.
The minimum wage should reflect the national income level of the country. Every year. If we as a society become poorer, then the minimum wage should decline as well. If we get richer, it should increase. If the government is no longer willing to serve the people, but simply serve the big money donors who want to eliminate the minimum wage, destroy the unions and get corporate welfare, then the system is failing the working class. Its as simply as that. Simply demanding that bakers, pre-school teachers, bartenders, life guards, ambulance drivers, cooks, nursing assistants, hairdressers, store clerks, animal caretakers, taxi drivers etc etc should just shut up and accept poverty is not acceptable.
Why are you wanting to rely on government to help the economy by setting standards? How'd that work out in the housing industry 10 years ago or in the dot com industry before that?
Where are the bakers, hairdressers and ambulance drivers? They are everywhere in this country.
The minimum wage should reflect the national income level of the country. Every year. If we as a society become poorer, then the minimum wage should decline as well. If we get richer, it should increase. If the government is no longer willing to serve the people, but simply serve the big money donors who want to eliminate the minimum wage, destroy the unions and get corporate welfare, then the system is failing the working class. Its as simply as that. Simply demanding that bakers, pre-school teachers, bartenders, life guards, ambulance drivers, cooks, nursing assistants, hairdressers, store clerks, animal caretakers, taxi drivers etc etc should just shut up and accept poverty is not acceptable.
Remember Ronald Reed, the janitor from Vermont, who despite a lifetime of low wage, managed to accumulate a stock portfolio valued at $8 million.
His choices to live under his meager wage enabled him to set aside a percentage of his income for long term investment.
In summary, raising the minimum wage DOES NOT result in lost jobs or reduced hours over the long term.
Did the companies that employ minimum wage workers increase their prices? When everyone in town has a higher grocery bill because the cashiers and bag boys got a government mandated raise, it's great for the cashiers and bag boys, but not so much for the town.
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Drawing on data from the Labor Department, the economists found that across the six cities studied, a 10 percent increase in the minimum wage boosted weekly earnings in the food services industry by an average of between 1.3 and 2.5 percent
That means most of them were already making more than 10% above the minimum wage.
Where are the bakers, hairdressers and ambulance drivers? They are everywhere in this country..
My point is, you never hear about them, it's always food workers...why are bakers, hairdressers, and ambulance driver not out protesting also?
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Originally Posted by PCALMike
The minimum wage should reflect the national income level of the country. Every year. If we as a society become poorer, then the minimum wage should decline as well. If we get richer, it should increase. If the government is no longer willing to serve the people, but simply serve the big money donors who want to eliminate the minimum wage, destroy the unions and get corporate welfare, then the system is failing the working class. Its as simply as that. Simply demanding that bakers, pre-school teachers, bartenders, life guards, ambulance drivers, cooks, nursing assistants, hairdressers, store clerks, animal caretakers, taxi drivers etc etc should just shut up and accept poverty is not acceptable.
Who told them to shut up? Maybe they are working to get better and not complain about not being taken care of by the government.....
National minimum wage needs to be calculated as the amount of money earned per hour, before taxes, to support a single, debt-free life when one works 40 hours a week in one of the low cost of living states. State minimum wage should be adjusted upwards accordingly taking into account the respective state's cost of living. Any patriotic American needs to support a reasonable minimum wage, as it is a very necessary counter against socialism. In my opinion, minimum wage is one of the pillars of liberty and freedom in the USA. If 15$ per hour makes sense in Manhattan, then by all means, make it so.
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