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Old 09-14-2018, 07:27 PM
 
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It's true... getting to the point where there are more people with guilty pleas and felony convictions in Trump's orbit than innocent civilians.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/wat...ot-mafia-dons/
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's true... getting to the point where there are more people with guilty pleas and felony convictions in Trump's orbit than innocent civilians.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/09/wat...ot-mafia-dons/
Need more popcorn for this one.
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Old 09-14-2018, 07:30 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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I bet a Republican-run FBI could have gotten a lot more convictions against a Hillary presidency.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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In a federal fishing expedition targeting political figures, with unlimited funds and large scale political pressure, there was never any doubt that guilty pleas were forthcoming. That's how the feds work. You get charged with something that you have to plead guilty to, regardless of the actual case against you, because the penalty for not doing that is simply to large if you are later convicted.

How this looks to at least half the nation is like a politically corrupt and undemocratic strong arming of a democratically elected administration.

That's going to have very long and sharp political ripples for decades to come. I'm not so sure how much you have to celebrate, either for personal political gain or the resulting state of our democracy in a much lower trust civic environment.

After all, lower civic trust is essentially what led to Donald Trump's election in the first place. Think on that.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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And here is the last guy...







Looks like he's playing the role of mob don...
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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I bet a Republican-run FBI could have gotten a lot more convictions against a Hillary presidency.
Perhaps. But this ain't that, now is it?
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:12 PM
 
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Jeff Toobin....the same a-hole that tried to bribe his ex-gf (while he was married) to get an abortion. He has more in common with Trump than he wants you to know.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Comrade TЯump's org has been chock full of dirty Russian mob characters for years.

His horrible mismanagement of money got so bad that he couldn't get loans anywhere except from the Russian mob.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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In a federal fishing expedition targeting political figures, with unlimited funds and large scale political pressure, there was never any doubt that guilty pleas were forthcoming. That's how the feds work. You get charged with something that you have to plead guilty to, regardless of the actual case against you, because the penalty for not doing that is simply to large if you are later convicted.

How this looks to at least half the nation is like a politically corrupt and undemocratic strong arming of a democratically elected administration.

That's going to have very long and sharp political ripples for decades to come. I'm not so sure how much you have to celebrate, either for personal political gain or the resulting state of our democracy in a much lower trust civic environment.

After all, lower civic trust is essentially what led to Donald Trump's election in the first place. Think on that.
Actually, more than half of the nation is fine with Mueller's investigation. Only 30% believe Trump over Mueller. And we know who those 30% are, present company included. The fact that so many have plead guilty and are in cooperation agreements with Mueller speaks volumes.

So no, this isn't a fishing expedition.
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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That's going to have very long and sharp political ripples for decades to come.
Very true, we're really going to have to examine as a country what led to so many of our citizens jettisoning their sanity and putting such a uniquely unqualified lunatic in power.
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