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Old 10-02-2018, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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OP...dunno. Got ADD, hard to digest. But I will concur with the title.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:32 PM
 
Location: North America
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Today's American psyche has two main pathological flaws which help explain the current situation with Judge Kavanaugh and the #MeToo and #TimeIsUp movements:
1) The bastardization of heroism: The most basic and normal actions that any good-natured and sensible human being should undertake as a matter of ordinary decency and manifest responsibility as a member of society are now labeled as heroic.
Any individual performing a deed within the boundaries set-forth in the paragraph above is heralded a hero, lauded, admired and recognized by their community as a whole. The disastrous consequence of this wholesale hero-labeling is that many people noticing the reaction that their fellow "hero" citizens receive, crave and wish to get the same type of attention, reward and recognition.
Another compounding factor, which is perhaps the most tragic of all, is the fact that not only trivial and ordinary actions are called heroic, but that behaviors and/or deeds that are anathema to the hero ethos are characterized as such.
Fellow humans who seek attention and crave being rewarded -think of them as Pavlovian hounds, or dopamine addicts, are willing to do anything, to be stamped with the hero moniker by their compatriots.
2) The victim complex: Perhaps one of the most egregious creations of the Frankfurt School deviants that have almost succeeded in destroying the West. Sadly this cancer that was for a while confined only to the US, has spread to many other countries in the world. Many decades ago, being a victim was nothing to be proud of. On the contrary, gloating about being a victim was often met with scoffs, ridicule and contempt.
The West's well-meaning obsession of rooting for the underdog and correcting the wrongs of the past -real or imaginary- has caused that being a victim is now something to be proud of.The victim status places the individual beyond the boundaries of any scrutiny or criticism.
If you're a victim you are admired, sympathized with, receive preferential treatment and are even treated with deference. This is why many strive to obtain their victim credentials, at any cost if one might add, so that that they can take advantage of the perks that come with these -should we mention all the hate crimes that turn out to be self-inflicted?
Most troubling of all is the fact that today, the mere allegation that something happened somewhere is enough to call one of the parties involved a victim, therefore elevating them to a position which they're beyond any reproach, and the simple action of questioning or looking into the facts of the purported incident is immediately characterized as a despicable attack on the victim itself.
The modern trivialization of victimhood is a clear disservice to all real victims around the globe. Not every victim is falsifying the facts, but not every one is telling the truth either, which is why one of the pillars of our justice system is the fact that the accused is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Furthermore, the burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused.

During the Ford-Kavanaugh hearing, we heard how Senate Democrats called Dr. Ford a hero and a victim. Hero for what one might ask? For doing what she labelled herself as her civic duty? Victim of what? The reality is that her claim wouldn't make it to trial would she file a criminal complaint against Kavanaugh with law enforcement. How can she be a victim of something that has not been proved and most likely cannot ever be proved?
What's her motivation, the Left asks us. She has nothing to gain and all to lose! Her life has been upended! We're told.
It's my sincere belief that the pathologies I described above are among the reasons why this wretched woman made up this whole story. Based on her testimony one can tell she craves attention, pity and truly enjoys being treated as a victim. Most likely she suffers of low self-esteem issues, which she compensates by making up stories in order to elicit sympathy from those around her, including her husband.
Dr. Ford's life is far from being upended or destroyed. Whether the FBI investigation finds additional facts that help prove or disprove her story, it won't matter. She will forever be called a hero and a victim by half of this nation. She will go on to make big bucks -right now she has raised over $700k through different GoFundMe campaigns, will have book deals, get paid interviews and even land movie deals.
Judge Kavanaugh's life on the other hand has been forever upended. Half of this nation will call him a rapist. Any resemblance of normalcy in his life has forever disappeared. Even if he's confirmed, violent leftist will forever hound him wherever he goes, and he and his family will be harassed every time they step out in public.
This is the world we all live in. Straight out of 1984.
Wow chugging the Koolaid are we?
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:40 PM
 
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Probably the best CD post that I have ever read. Thanks Angel

The educational system, the media and social media, along with a big does of George Soros, et al. have caused thi split in our country.
That crock of BS is the best post on CD? Based on no evidence, and no first hand knowledge of Ms Ford, the OP concludes that she made the whole thing up to get attention. And what the heck is the "Frankfurt School?" What does George Soros have to do with anything? Next I suppose you'll be blaming the Rothschilds and the international Jewish banking syndicate for the breakdown of society?
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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It is why we are so divided. The Left wants the USSR, or at least European style socialism, and big government, and the Right wants what the Founders of our country wanted. Independence, freedom, liberty, and small government. We aren't supposed to be Europe. That's why we left there.
This is at least a semi-cogent post, so it is possible to debate it:

Yes, the Left wants European-style socialism (not USSR) and big government. This, however, is not incompatible with "independence, freedom, liberty.." We left Europe when Europe was a monarchy, a theocracy, a fascist state. Now it has transformed into something worth emulating.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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This is at least a semi-cogent post, so it is possible to debate it:

Yes, the Left wants European-style socialism (not USSR) and big government. This, however, is not incompatible with "independence, freedom, liberty.." We left Europe when Europe was a monarchy, a theocracy, a fascist state. Now it has transformed into something worth emulating.
I agree, USSR was a bit much on my part, but I mean the large collective the Federal Government has become. We are supposed to be a relatively lose collection of States where the Feds are supposed to be the weaker entity. That's changed drastically, and that's what I believe the Left wants. A large controlling government that is supposed to "fix" everything including a good amount of social engineering to right perceived past wrongs. I don't think we should be emulating Europe, as they are becoming more, and more controlling of their populace where now people can be prosecuted, and even jailed for speech.
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Old 10-02-2018, 02:14 PM
 
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The left love the party,,the country not so much.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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Independence, freedom, liberty, and small government.
I'm sorry, I must have missed something somewhere. Exactly which party is for that type of government?

Because it certainly isn't the current Democratic or Republican parties...
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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I get tired of the chest pounding and propping up of the military as heroes. No war has ever provided me any relief from the "enemy", they do provide tons of relief to the rich ensuring that they never lose their economic power life line.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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The victim complex is especially common in the U.S. when you look at how many SJW snowflakes there are. This is especially the case for those pulling the cultural appropriation card. Every culture past and present has at least practices and views that were adopted, taken, or influenced by another culture.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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During the Ford-Kavanaugh hearing, we heard how Senate Democrats called Dr. Ford a hero and a victim. Hero for what one might ask? For doing what she labelled herself as her civic duty? Victim of what? The reality is that her claim wouldn't make it to trial would she file a criminal complaint against Kavanaugh with law enforcement. How can she be a victim of something that has not been proved and most likely cannot ever be proved?
What's her motivation, the Left asks us. She has nothing to gain and all to lose! Her life has been upended!
You don't have to believe someone but just because YOU don't believe something doesn't mean it is false. I can believe whatever I want to about myself. You probably believe you are sane and rational...but I don't share that belief. Shouldn't really matter to either one of us, huh?

And yeah, she's more of a victim than that privileged boofer ever was or will be. He's just a biased ahole who has shown the whole world that he'll never be a good judge but he will be a good little boy and let Trump off the hook whenever trump says "jump". Kavanaugh is in his back pocket....maybe even closer than that.
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