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Old 10-04-2018, 07:55 PM
 
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Where do you stop. Around here, guns are accessible because many young people go hunting. So say this kid starts hunting at age 10. Then snaps at 18 and shoots someone. You would charge their parents for them having access to guns? Or because of the slight possibility it could happen you deny all young people the right to hunt? Sounds extremely unfair to me.
Personally I wouldn't put any limit on it. You raise a monster, you are liable for what they do. But, 18 to align with other laws.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:13 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I feel sorry for those that live there and are watching their freedoms get eroded.
Its bizarre and morbid that the definition of freedom to many of you is the ability to easily take away someone else's freedom. Cause that is what a gun is designed to do, take away a person's freedom.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:32 PM
 
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Its bizarre and morbid that the definition of freedom to many of you is the ability to easily take away someone else's freedom. Cause that is what a gun is designed to do, take away a person's freedom.
I knew supertroll would appear eventually. A gun is designed to protect your freedom.
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Old 10-04-2018, 09:16 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I knew supertroll would appear eventually. A gun is designed to protect your freedom.
By taking it away from someone else.
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Old 10-04-2018, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Its bizarre and morbid that the definition of freedom to many of you is the ability to easily take away someone else's freedom. Cause that is what a gun is designed to do, take away a person's freedom.
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I knew supertroll would appear eventually. A gun is designed to protect your freedom.
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By taking it away from someone else.
By giving you the ability to protect your self and your family. If you are not the aggressor, and not looking for a fight, then the person coming after you would be the one to forfeit their freedoms.


Again a GUN is only a tool, a device, it still requires a person to pull the trigger, meaning there are good people and bad people, and a bad person will kill almost anyone, and a good person, would only kill to protect them self or someone else.
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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By taking it away from someone else.
By protecting the innocent. Are you seriously implying that the guy who tried to kill me and I shot him means I took away his freedom?
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Old 10-05-2018, 02:10 AM
 
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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By protecting the innocent. Are you seriously implying that the guy who tried to kill me and I shot him means I took away his freedom?
Ken thinks that if we outlaw guns, criminals will turn theirs in voluntarily. At least that is what his posts imply. And that anyone who owns a gun is an EVIL person.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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By protecting the innocent. Are you seriously implying that the guy who tried to kill me and I shot him means I took away his freedom?
According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Reporting statistics.

In an average year there are 250 justifiable self defense homicides involving firearms in the US.

In an average year there are 11,000 criminal homicides by firearm.

That is a 44 to 1 ratio of guns being used to take an innocent persons freedom away versus protecting someone's freedom. Statistically you are more likely to use your gun to kill your wife and kids then defend them from a stranger intent on harming you.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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Its bizarre and morbid that the definition of freedom to many of you is the ability to easily take away someone else's freedom. Cause that is what a gun is designed to do, take away a person's freedom.
Its a tool, an inanimate object, and you have an irrational fear.
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