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View Poll Results: How will illegal immigrant invasion caravan effect midterm election
Help Republicans 203 74.09%
Help Democrats 21 7.66%
No effect 50 18.25%
Voters: 274. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-08-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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It doesn't matter to these bleeding hearts they have been quite uncivil since Trump got elected. Many if not most of them feel we should accept every foreigner in need into our country. We just can't do it anymore. They are going to have to start solving their own problems. We cannot be the employment agency and flop house to the world anymore.
yes, and to hell with all those who fought for this country....
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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You folks need to get your stories straight.

He talked about them all the time up to the mid terms. Now, not so much.

https://deadline.com/2018/11/preside...an-1202494473/
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ravan-florida/
https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-obam...s/4644320.html
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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As soon as the midterms were over, both Fox News & Breitbart stopped covering the caravan.

Before Tuesday, the conservative media was on a mission to convince republicans that this caravan of criminals and "some middle easterners" were coming to "invade" the United States in order to get them off the couch and to go vote.

But now that midterms are over, Breitbart.com does not have a SINGLE article about the caravan on their home page. But on Monday, it was plastered all over the top of Breitbart. Today, nothing about the caravan. https://www.breitbart.com/

Fox News hardly ever covered the caravan yesterday and today. But on Monday and Tuesday? Wall to wall coverage of the caravan.

Sadly, for many of Trump's supporters, they depend on Trump himself and conservative media to tell them what's important.

Ah, so you're still repeating this same old nonsense under a similar topic now? So you're just going to pretend that we didn't address your comments under that other topic such as the fact that there is no movement in the caravan right now as they are just resting in Mexico City along with the meeting yesterday to change our asylum policies which are to be signed by Trump tomorrow?
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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Per the US Army 1400 is more likely. When one is dealing with over 500,000 visa over stayers routinely 1400 is not a big number anymore enormous.
The US Army's estimate vs. the Mexican governments count.

So because there are a large number of visa over stayers we should ignore the large number that cross the border illegally and not try to discourage an influx of asylum seekers that we will have to feed, clothe, shelter, educate and provide medical for?
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The US Army's estimate vs. the Mexican governments count.

So because there are a large number of visa over stayers we should ignore the large number that cross the border illegally and not try to discourage an influx of asylum seekers that we will have to feed, clothe, shelter, educate and provide medical for?
There is no Mexican count at the border...where all we have is the army estimate.

A group of 1400 should get proportionate attention. Which it will. The real problem is that the administration does not appear to be making a proportionate response to the over stayers.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The US Army's estimate vs. the Mexican governments count.

So because there are a large number of visa over stayers we should ignore the large number that cross the border illegally and not try to discourage an influx of asylum seekers that we will have to feed, clothe, shelter, educate and provide medical for?
I will go with the military estimate, they are trained in how to look at a large group and determine with a fair degree of certainty how many of them will reach a given destination, that's part of war planning ya know...estimating the size of your enemy when they are hundreds of miles away. The Mexican government is doing a rough count of people in a given area at a particular time who appear to be attached to a caravan.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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In the meantime, there was some whining by The Left that the caravan is not being talked about. Their thought is, that it was only a distraction fabricated by Trump & Co. to get the base all riled up. And their claim is, it has been dropped by the media since it was all a scheme, anyway.
Here ya go:
NPR Nov 8.


ABC News
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:57 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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But Trump kept pushing the caravan. And pushing and pushing until he didn't need to anymore. Every. Single. Rally.
And? That does not mean the story hadn't been dying down in the media before the midterms.
Lol, you claim it wasn't dying down before the midterms because Trump kept talking about it at the rallies. You think it's suspicious that, as you claim, it had died down only after the midterms. How many rallies has he had since the midterms????????

Do y'all even pay attention to what you're saying, or do you folks just throw stuff out there and hope it sticks?
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:57 PM
 
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There is no Mexican count at the border...where all we have is the army estimate.

A group of 1400 should get proportionate attention. Which it will. The real problem is that the administration does not appear to be making a proportionate response to the over stayers.
No one said at the boarder. The count was 1400 at Mexico city stadium. That is fact. The army estimates how many they believe will make it to the border.

If its 7,000, 4,500, 1,400 or 400 this time it still needs full attention. What will it be the next time and the next and the next caravan that comes through. The message needs to be clear that seeking asylum in the US because you are poor or your community suffers gang violence can not continue. We can not absorb the worlds poor.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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No one said at the boarder. The count was 1400 at Mexico city stadium. That is fact. The army estimates how many they believe will make it to the border.

If its 7,000, 4,500, 1,400 or 400 this time it still needs full attention. What will it be the next time and the next and the next caravan that comes through. The message needs to be clear that seeking asylum in the US because you are poor or your community suffers gang violence can not continue. We can not absorb the worlds poor.
The 1400 was the original army estimate of the caravan at the US border. The Mexican reported initially 2,000 at the soccer stadium and later 4,000 again at the stadium.

And no it is a relatively small concern. There simply is not enough population pressure from Central America for it to be a big deal.

And so does the 10,000 per week over stayers?
Why are you folk unable to deal with that issue? About 250 times as important as the caravan.
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